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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:52 pm    Post subject: Need a new laptop.. Reply with quote

So work has been so busy the last X years that I have been using my old Thinkpad R60e as my main laptop. Now things are going back to a 5 day week I finally have some time to buy/configure a new laptop.

I have looked at a couple (online only) but i'm so out of touch with what represents good value for money.

Few questions.

1) Are thinkpads still as good as they used to be?
2) Are dell's still as bad as they used to be?
3) Should I still vaio laptops like the plague?

Im looking for a portable i5/i7 laptop 13/14" doesn't need a CD drive, thinner and lighter the better.

The XPS13 from Dell looks nice, but I always remember Dell's being awful. Ive been so impressed with all my Thinkpads im tempted just to buy the X1 carbon, anyone here using that? (not the touch one).

No real budget, but no more than $2000 / £1500 (will spend more if its worth it)

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dunno if ThinkPads are still as good as they used to be. I like my T420, What I especially like is that everything works well with Linux. At my university there's a Lenovo stand at the moment. The carbon X1 does look nice, although the new keyboards need a bit getting used to (the looks that is - someone who's been using a TP for years like you or has dismantled thousands of them like me will probably be repelled by the new all black keyboards of the new TPs. Yesterday I tried the keyboard on a T530, but very shortly. Didn't feel any worse than the old one on my T420. You could probably do worse than buying the X1, especially if you plan to use it as long as your T60e.

Dunno about Dell. I've always had the impression that they're a bit sucky. They look nice, though, and to me they feel nice, too. Can't really help you there. Sheldon and Leonard from Big Bang Theory use Dells, so they should be good :P.

What do you viao laptops? From the context I guess avoid. Dunno. My parents got one but they're running Windows on it. From my limited experience with dismantling Vaios I can say that they're a lot more complicated to open than a TP or Dell (I counted 17 screws for replacing a HDD), but nothing's glued together.

I have a bias towards ThinkPads, so I'd say go with the X1.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't gone near Dell before, and the general consensus I've got from Dell users is that they're not particularly good, but not hugely bad either(Unless they're very old).

In the house I live in there are three HP laptops floating about, and with the exception of the cooling, there are no problems. Mine is mounted on two wooden dowels to keep it above the working surface to give it breathing room, and one of the others uses the grill from an oven.
As far as compatibility goes, it worked very nicely with some old 2.6.* kernels, and I've had absolutely no problems with >=3.* that weren't my fault.

I can't really comment on Vaios or Thinkpads, having very little experience with them.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

go for toshiba satellite 15.6" long screen with intel/amd dual core
i got one 3 onths back c855d-s5232 toshiba satellite
they cost around 400 or so.
gentoo works nicely with 3. kernels and amd ati vedio driver 64 bit
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apple MacBook Pro.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

notageek wrote:
Apple MacBook Pro.
I was forced to work with one while giving a presentation in another office of the company ... i nearly had a stroke! Not even the vnc to my linux workstation worked properly.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

padoor wrote:
go for toshiba satellite 15.6" long screen with intel/amd dual core
i got one 3 onths back c855d-s5232 toshiba satellite
they cost around 400 or so.
gentoo works nicely with 3. kernels and amd ati vedio driver 64 bit


When I was in college I used to work on laptop returns for staples, 99% of them where all Toshiba Satellites with failed components.

notageek wrote:

Apple MacBook Pro.


Seems an expensive way to run Linux, its about a $500 premium just for the Apple name.

Clad in Sky wrote:

Dunno if ThinkPads are still as good as they used to be. I like my T420, What I especially like is that everything works well with Linux.


They used to be built like a warship, so one step down will still be OK :D
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toshiba makes nice heaters. Those which don't pass the quality assurance tests are sold as power supplies for notebook computers. Profit margin: 100:2 and higher.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about Fujitsu?
I got Fujitsu from my company and it is quite good. Never had to complain
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've often eyed Fujitsu. Of the 3-4 people I know who have used them, they've liked them a lot. The last time I looked, Fujitsu laptops were _very_ expensive. I personally couldn't justify the cost premium. Made Apple look affordable. Are Fujitsu still expensive?
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