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| I thought all planes were flying bombs potentially. Plus I always found a slight smell of fuel from the older (jumbo) planes I have been on, but I always assumed that was just me being paranoid. |
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He's only pointing it out because it is US.
I too found the fuel smell disturbing.
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Nothing like the smell of aviation kerosene(sort of like napalm) in the morning.
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| sikpuppy wrote: | | I thought all planes were flying bombs potentially. Plus I always found a slight smell of fuel from the older (jumbo) planes I have been on, but I always assumed that was just me being paranoid. |
Thats because the air in the cabin is siphoned off of the low-pressure turbine in the engines (the so called "engine bleed air"). |
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True, but not on the 787, where no bleed air is used for cabin pressurization.
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The bleed air is supplied from multiple stages. During high power settings it will come from a low (relative) pressure stage and at low power settings it will come from a higher pressure stage. This helps to supply enough air for the systems. In all cases the air comes from upstream of the burner cans (where fuel is introduced).
It is common to get exhaust ingested by the engines or apu if the wind is right while on the ground. That you will smell. Also if the bleeds and packs are turned on too soon after deiicing you will smell some deice fluid.
Had some new tpe331s on new Metro 23s that had leaking oil from the front compressor seal, caused very low but noticeable oil consumption.
You are not breathing unburned jet fuel, sorry. |
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energyman76b
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| flysideways wrote: | The bleed air is supplied from multiple stages. During high power settings it will come from a low (relative) pressure stage and at low power settings it will come from a higher pressure stage. This helps to supply enough air for the systems. In all cases the air comes from upstream of the burner cans (where fuel is introduced).
It is common to get exhaust ingested by the engines or apu if the wind is right while on the ground. That you will smell. Also if the bleeds and packs are turned on too soon after deiicing you will smell some deice fluid.
Had some new tpe331s on new Metro 23s that had leaking oil from the front compressor seal, caused very low but noticeable oil consumption.
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no, you are breathing unburned jet lubricant. Several times as toxic... 
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Obviously it is operator error.
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Why? why are you so butthurt that someone commented on your precious Airbus. What the fuck do you know about planes anyway besides what you read on wiki. In fact who here does, its a linux forum ...
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| eeyrjmr wrote: | | In fact who here does, its a linux forum ... |
Let me introduce you to the internet sir.
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Why? why are you so butthurt that someone commented on your precious Airbus. What the fuck do you know about planes anyway besides what you read on wiki. In fact who here does, its a linux forum ... |
Just for your info, we have 2 certified pilots that are regulars on this forum.
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Merged.
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Meanwhile Rheinmetall is no longer able to make real guns.
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| eeyrjmr wrote: |
Why? why are you so butthurt that someone commented on your precious Airbus. What the fuck do you know about planes anyway besides what you read on wiki. In fact who here does, its a linux forum ... |
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pjp
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:52 am Post subject: Re: Boeing Dreamliner: complete piece of shit. |
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| eeyrjmr wrote: | | What the fuck do you know about planes anyway besides what you read on wiki. In fact who here does, its a linux forum ... |
I don't know about your subject of concern, but there are at least a couple here who have demonstrated some knowledge beyond "wiki."
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