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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After wrestling konqueror in file manager mode, I had to switch to thunar. Konqueror kept crashing.

No biggie though. With the help of thunar, I've just uploaded .configs for 3.0.46-tuxonice, 3.0.47, 3.4.15, and 3.6.3 in both x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy!

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PS, anyone else notice konqueror in file manager mode gets crashy with nfs?
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pappy_mcfae,

I've not check your site but you might want to think about taking down 3.5.x and 3.6.x which have the ext4 filesystem corruption bug.
They have been masked in the tree already, so new users won't get them from portage unless they unmask them.

As usual, sympathy is minimal for users unmasking broken stuff - they get too keep all the pieces.
It may be good to remove the affected seed(s) and put a warning up instead or as well.

Having said that, I've been using 3.5.2 for several weeks on my main PC and it seems to work, well so far so good anyway.
The same upgrade on my VPS, where kernel-seeds.bloodnoc.org lives seemed to have hit problems straight away.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2012 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think making the announcement here will work just fine.

There is a bug affecting the 3.5.x and 3.6.x kernel sources. This bug causes corruption of the ext4 filesystem. The bug report is here. If you are using ext4, it is highly recommended that you use a different version of source. If you are using any other filesystem, it appears as if you can use the affected versions without issue.

Since this is only a problem for people using ext4, and since the problematic source is already masked, I'd say that a word of warning should be quite sufficient. I don't think I need to pull those particular seeds.

Thanks for the heads up.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just uploaded .configs for 3.0.49, 3.4.16, and 3.6.4 in both x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy!

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Pappy, just a quick comment :

Do you enable all the time this option :

Code:

Preemption Model (Preemptible Kernel (Low-Latency Desktop))  --->


And also this one :
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Timer frequency (1000 HZ)  --->
CONFIG_HZ_1000=y
CONFIG_HZ=1000


Because with your seed, I think that it was set to 300, and my box was really slow.

All these are inside the Processor type and features section.

Thanks :P
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

d2 racing,

I set the speed down on the seed because it was causing some multi-core systems to act strangely. Because of multiplication, a four core CPU set at 1000Hz would generate 4000Hz internally (cpu interrupt frequency (1000Hz) x number of cores (4) = 4000Hz. I had many users with i7 processors that were running into really weird driver issues. Turning the speed down to 300Hz meant less issues with such things.

As with all seed settings, it's up to the user to tweak as the deem necessary.

Everyone,

A few new sources came up in portage today. I've just uploaded .configs for 3.0.49-gentoo and 3.6.4-gentoo in both x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy!

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 11:10 am    Post subject: LTO kernel Reply with quote

Hi Pappy!

Please compile (toolchain and) kernel with LTO (link time optimization) support.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any reason why doing that ?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my reading of things, LTO is a compiler option, not a kernel option. Even if it was a kernel option, it doesn't follow the seed concept of being as minimalist as possible for machine operation. I know three machines at least that run just fine without it. You are quite welcome to use it on your own system, or to even suggest it to others.

Since it is beyond the scope of the kernel seed, I will leave things as they are.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just uploaded .configs for 2.6.32-hardened-r136, 3.0.50, 3.2.32-hardened-r1, 3.2.33, 3.4.17, 3.6.4-hardened, and 3.6.5 in both x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ippipp,

What does LTO do for kernels?

The kernel cannot be linked to anything as its all alone in the world until it mounts root. That includes the initramfs if there is one.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just uploaded .configs for 2.6.32-hardened-r137, 3.2.33-hardened, 3.6.5-gentoo, and 3.6.5-hardened in both x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon wrote:
ippipp,

What does LTO do for kernels?

The kernel cannot be linked to anything as its all alone in the world until it mounts root. That includes the initramfs if there is one.


See this http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-933900-highlight-lto.html thread
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again, the kernel seed is made to make things easier for the n00b, the overworked admin, or anyone else that requires a simple BASIC kernel setup from which to build a working kernel. LTO does NOT aid in that.

LTO is new, and according to what I read, buggy. When "buggy" comes up as one of the results of LTO, then it is DEFINITELY NOT going to be part of the kernel seed. I'm sure once they work it all out, it will be the best thing since sliced bread. However, I am not going to subject the my kernel seed users to something that reads like a new way to send segmentation faults into the stratosphere.

The kernel seed is not about following trends. It's about setting up a Linux machine to run. Once the individual user gets to that place, if they want to experiment, fantastic. I encourage experimentation for everyone that uses a seed. That said, I am not going to enable something that will break the concept of easy and simple in reference to the kernel seed.

May I also ask that we drop this subject, or that you start another thread where you can talk about this all you wish.

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For all my American users, don't forget to vote later on today. I've just uploaded .configs for 3.0.51, 3.4.18, 3.6.6, and 3.6.6-gentoo in both x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm taking a break from the i-Phone I inherited. One can only play so many rounds of Angry Poo (yes, I said, Angry Poo) before work is done. Not only am I learning about crap with an attitude, I've also learned that the i-Phone uses a mix of freeBSD and Debian. How cool.

The hardened-sources folks are at it again. I've just uploaded .configs for 2.6.32-hardened-r138, 3.2.33-hardened-r1, and 3.6.6-hardened in both x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm heading out the door to chow, but I left everyone some gifts. I've just uploaded .configs for 2.6.32-hardened-r139, 3.2.33-hardened-r2, and 3.6.6-hardened-r1 in both x86 and x86_64 flavors. Enjoy!

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It appears as if there was a driver issue with the site machine. I've corrected it, and the main site is back up. My apologies.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NeddySeagoon,

Please lock this thread, as it's reached twenty pages. I'll be starting thread number five momentarily. Please make that one sticky. Thanks.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thread locked by request of the original poster.

Discussion is continued in Pappy's Kernel Seeds Part V
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