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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:55 am    Post subject: Secession petitions flood White House website Reply with quote

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President Obama's reelection last week has prompted a slew of requests to secede from the United States.

Using the Obama administration's own We the People website, nearly two dozen petitions have sprung up asking the Obama administration for permission to withdraw from the Union.

The two most popular petitions, Texas and Louisiana, have both drawn more than 10,000 signatures each as of Monday morning. The Texas petition needs only 7,000 more signatures to trigger an official White House response.

None of the petitions explicitly cite Obama's reelection as a reason for independence, but all were created after last week's elections.

"The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the [National Defense Authorization Act], the [Transportation Security Administration], etc," the Texas petition charges. "Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it's citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government." more...

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:58 am    Post subject: Re: Secession petitions flood White House website Reply with quote

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President Obama's reelection last week has prompted a slew of requests to secede from the United States.

Using the Obama administration's own We the People website, nearly two dozen petitions have sprung up asking the Obama administration for permission to withdraw from the Union.

The two most popular petitions, Texas and Louisiana, have both drawn more than 10,000 signatures each as of Monday morning. The Texas petition needs only 7,000 more signatures to trigger an official White House response.

None of the petitions explicitly cite Obama's reelection as a reason for independence, but all were created after last week's elections.

"The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the [National Defense Authorization Act], the [Transportation Security Administration], etc," the Texas petition charges. "Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it's citizens' standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government." more...
Wasn't there some joker in here a while ago stating secession isn't permitted by the Constitution. :lol:
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/texas-petition-secede-reaches-threshold-obama-comment/story?id=17701519
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So far, the president has not commented on the petition and there is no guarantee that he will. The terms of participation give the president some loopholes.
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The White House did respond to a petition that gained fewer than 13,000 signatures this fall: the petition seeking the White House beer recipe.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Texas has 26 million people. I would think they could easily round up a million or so people to sign this. dmitchell, if you haven't signed it, shame on you.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm afraid of being put on a kill list.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't use your real name, fool. It's like voting.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm afraid of being put on a kill list.


What makes you think you are not on the list now?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All 50 states (or at least the majority) should secede, then immediately form a corporation for brokering interstate cooperation.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then we'd be pretty much another EU, but with a bunch of Red States mixed in.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would citizens petition the White House for their state to secede? Surely secession bills have to be passed by state houses and probably requires a state referendum? So they should be petitioning their state legislatures. All of this smacks of wahwah our guy lost the election, woe is me, wahwah. Even though he wasn't 'their' guy anyway, in as much as Romney gives even less of a fuck about dumbass rednecks than the hired help, which in itself is less than zero fucks.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New T-shirt, mugs, etc.
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Make some money.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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New T-shirt, mugs, etc.
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Make some money.

:lol: :lol:

Sounds good.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aidanjt wrote:
BoneKracker wrote:
New T-shirt, mugs, etc.
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Fucks Given < 0

Make some money.

:lol: :lol:

Sounds good.


i'd buy that shirt.

Perhaps

Fucks given? < 0.

maybe the simpler version is better.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ dmitchell. What happened during Katrina was a flood. 12 petitions is not a flood. If 1 clerk can handle all the petitions and signatories by pencil and paper, then it's not a flood.

google "petition end faith schools" on the uk google website. The top 4 links are petitions. Let me tell you that I am underwhelmed by the amount of support banning faith schools in the UK gets (we are, of course, talking about publicly funded faith schools), and 12 won't constitute a flood.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can not give less than zero fucks. Zero is the least number of fucks anybody can give.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ichbinsisyphos wrote:
You can not give less than zero fucks. Zero is the least number of fucks anybody can give.


are you suggesting

fucks given? 0

?

more accurate, less funny.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You can not give less than zero fucks. Zero is the least number of fucks anybody can give.

You're forgetting about anti-fucks.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aidanjt wrote:
You're forgetting about anti-fucks.
The existence of anti-fucks has never been proven!

juniper wrote:
more accurate
I agree 1000%.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ichbinsisyphos wrote:
juniper wrote:
more accurate
I agree 1000%.


now you're being ridiculous :lol:
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ichbinsisyphos wrote:
aidanjt wrote:
You're forgetting about anti-fucks.

The existence of anti-fucks has never been proven!

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why would citizens petition the White House for their state to secede?

Americans are just very, very polite.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

juniper wrote:
@ dmitchell. What happened during Katrina was a flood. 12 petitions is not a flood. If 1 clerk can handle all the petitions and signatories by pencil and paper, then it's not a flood.

I agree. Maybe we should file a petition for accurate headlines?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aidanjt wrote:
ichbinsisyphos wrote:
You can not give less than zero fucks. Zero is the least number of fucks anybody can give.

You're forgetting about anti-fucks.

++

Anti-fucks are real, and cannot be ignored.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dmitchell wrote:
juniper wrote:
@ dmitchell. What happened during Katrina was a flood. 12 petitions is not a flood. If 1 clerk can handle all the petitions and signatories by pencil and paper, then it's not a flood.

I agree. Maybe we should file a petition for accurate headlines?


to the white house?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To flag@whitehouse.gov. Nancy Pelosi told me this is nothing but astro-turf.
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