dwb minimalist browser

BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.

I have been using 'xxxterm' (being renamed 'xombrero'). Trying a different one called 'dwb', which so far seems very cool.

It is similarly webkit-based, keyboard-driven, and uses whitelisting for cookies, plugins, and javascript. It's very slightly more full-featured than xombrero, but also seems to be very slightly slower. It's method of keyboard operation is more vi-like, having an insert mode one toggles in and out of. It makes excellent use of screen space. Lots of keyboard bindings, but like most such applications, one need only remember the few one uses.

I give it a thumbs-up.
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Old School · Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:48 pm Post subject:

Memory and storage really aren't that expensive any longer.
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BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.

It's not just about machine resources; it's about efficiency of use. Having one's screen all cluttered up with launch bars, tool bars, button bars, big fat tabs and other crap takes away space from whatever it is you're actually trying to do. Having to take your hands off they keyboard to use the mouse slows you down, if you're doing something like text entry or editing. It's about being anally retentive and indulging one's obsessions.
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aidanjt · Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:22 am Post subject:

Had a root around with it for the last hour, I kinda like it. I like that the bookmarks file is literally just a flat text file with <url><space><title><newline>. That's how bookmarks should be done sanely. Still sticking with chrome for now, but of all the minimalist browsers I think dwb might be the best of the lot.
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Woah... extensions.

Dr.Willy · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 3:55 pm Post subject:

*sigh*
I've begun measuring the time I haven't worked on my own browser in "number of minimalist browsers BK has tried since then".
Why do you have to remind me

BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.

I like xxxterm, but it locks up sometimes when I do a Google search with multiple tabs open.

If you're writing a minimalist browser, it should conform to BoneKracker Requirements and be released before the end of Christmas Holiday.
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Dr.Willy · Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:01 pm Post subject:

Old School · Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:33 am Post subject:

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dmitchell · Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:02 am Post subject:

BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.

You should be working for the Government.
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dmitchell · Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:09 am Post subject:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
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NotQuiteSane · Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:06 am Post subject:

I do like the fact that it can use grease monkey scripts.

I've got the following issues with it, some ranking higher than others.

First, I've managed to split the screen into three windows. How do I revert to a single pane? I've spent hours between google, irc and the man page, and can't find the answer.

Second, Youtube renders "weird" the "statusbar" for the video doesn't show. clicking on the video start's and stops it, but there is no way to seek, resize, change quality, or adjust volume.

Third, how do you go back? there is no :back, and ideally I would bind this to "alt-left arrow"

Fourth, it seems to bork on sites requiring SSL authentication

Fifth, "control-tab" currently switches between current and previous tab. I want it to switch to the next tab.

Last, how (is it possible?) do you "stack" and "collapse" tabs? I'd like to be able to do something similar to how Opera handles it.

NQS
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BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.

How about a nice cup of RTFM?

I think maybe this browser is not for you.
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NotQuiteSane · Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 12:17 am Post subject:

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BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.

I haven't had any trouble with SSL, other than not being able to open Gentoo's Bugzilla site when I have ssl_strict activated, which I believe to be correct behavior, given that Gentoo Bugzilla uses a self-signed certificate.

I haven't tried Jumanji because I see no indication it has convenient URL white-listing for javascript, cookies, and flash/plugins, and this is one of my requirements.
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BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.

I have one complaint: it's ad-blocker doesn't do element-hiding. Apparently the feature was included but is buggy.
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NotQuiteSane · Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:53 am Post subject:

BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.

PEBKAC

This is mode confusion, I suspect. Pay attention to the status bar. If you're in the wrong mode, pressing 'd' doesn't do anything. If you hit 'd' and it doesn't work, try tapping escape (which will put you into "normal mode", no matter how befuckled you've got yourself), then press 'd'. Note that changing tabs or clicking with the mouse may (by design) change the mode you are in.

I had some "d is not working" frustration earlier, but it seems to have vanished. I have run into similar confusion when switching from a tab where I'm editing to another tab to look at something, then back to the first tab to type some more, and not understanding that I need to hit "i" to go back into editing mode. Earlier when I did this, the first thing I typed was 'H', which of course is <BACK>, so it jumped to another page.

You just need to get more familiar with it.
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NotQuiteSane · Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:14 am Post subject:

no, BK, I was making fun of the fact that I got used to dwb keybindings, and am currently using a different browser on a live-cd, where those keybindings don't work.

although i've accidently closed a tab by pressing 'd' think ing i wanted to download a link.

NQS
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BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.

Oh.

I haven't been using Windows the last few weeks, but after using xxxterm (xombrero) for several weeks, I was on a Windows machine in Internet Explorer, and I kept hitting F9 to jump to the address bar, which didn't work, of course.

I have also had to learn to stop pressing 'ctrl+t' to open a new tab (as you know, it's 'O' in dwb).

Now that I'm used to it, I do find using 'J' and 'K' very convenient for navigating between tabs.
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