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slugggerzzz n00b
Joined: 07 Mar 2012 Posts: 65 Location: Manchester, UK
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:42 pm Post subject: Gentoo in the enterprise |
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Does anyone run Gentoo in there business ?
Is so what for ? _________________ Slugggerzzz ... |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator
Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 54237 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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slugggerzzz,
Lots of people do. Some don't want it made public, some are Gentoo sponsors (look at the side bar ads).
There have even been gentoo.org front page news items about Gentoo in the enterprise. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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those that do backups
those that have never had a hard drive fail. |
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Crooksey Apprentice
Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 239 Location: Vatican City
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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I use it on all my servers that have to be Linux and cannot run on BSD for software reasons.
It works great and hardened just makes that better.
Before anyone pipes up with "BSD can run anything Linux can", It really cant.
I know the system is secure with gentoo and I only build what I need, compiling takes no time at all and it just works for me.
I prefer BSD over Linux/Gentoo for servers as I personally think it performs alot better and PF works alot easier. Having said that both my Gentoo and Free/OpenBSD servers are all PCI-DSS class 1.
So theres no reason in my mind, why I would not use Gentoo when using Gentoo comercially. |
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ryao Retired Dev
Joined: 27 Feb 2012 Posts: 132
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Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:35 am Post subject: |
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Crooksey wrote: | I use it on all my servers that have to be Linux and cannot run on BSD for software reasons.
It works great and hardened just makes that better.
Before anyone pipes up with "BSD can run anything Linux can", It really cant.
I know the system is secure with gentoo and I only build what I need, compiling takes no time at all and it just works for me.
I prefer BSD over Linux/Gentoo for servers as I personally think it performs alot better and PF works alot easier. Having said that both my Gentoo and Free/OpenBSD servers are all PCI-DSS class 1.
So theres no reason in my mind, why I would not use Gentoo when using Gentoo comercially. |
Gentoo can be either Linux or FreeBSD, so the fact that you are using Gentoo does not mean that you are using Linux. |
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deno Guru
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 411
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Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Hardened is nice and sexy, but how do you see the security of gentoo repositories (mirrors)?
Anything positive happened in the mean time regarding problems mentioned here?
You remember Unreal IRC server infected with backdoor? |
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Crooksey Apprentice
Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 239 Location: Vatican City
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:06 am Post subject: |
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ryao wrote: | Crooksey wrote: | I use it on all my servers that have to be Linux and cannot run on BSD for software reasons.
It works great and hardened just makes that better.
Before anyone pipes up with "BSD can run anything Linux can", It really cant.
I know the system is secure with gentoo and I only build what I need, compiling takes no time at all and it just works for me.
I prefer BSD over Linux/Gentoo for servers as I personally think it performs alot better and PF works alot easier. Having said that both my Gentoo and Free/OpenBSD servers are all PCI-DSS class 1.
So theres no reason in my mind, why I would not use Gentoo when using Gentoo comercially. |
Gentoo can be either Linux or FreeBSD, so the fact that you are using Gentoo does not mean that you are using Linux. |
Im sorry, but you mean portage can be used on either Gentoo or FreeBSD?
Gentoo Linux is called "Gentoo Linux" on the homepage because its a linux system, with linux libs and a Linux kernel.
FreeBSD is BSD because of its libs and kernel.
Some IBM packages will only run on a Linux system and wont run on FreeBSD with compat linux, so thats why I use Linux (Gentoo) when I cant use FreeBSD due to a lack of IBM support for freeBSD |
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jdhore Retired Dev
Joined: 13 Apr 2007 Posts: 106
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 4:48 am Post subject: Re: Gentoo in the enterprise |
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slugggerzzz wrote: | Does anyone run Gentoo in there business ?
Is so what for ? |
I'd say Gentoo works well for the enterprise given it's used by NASDAQ (Or at least was, as of about a year ago, according to this article: http://www.itworld.com/open-source/193823/how-linux-mastered-wall-street?page=0,2 )
Given that NASDAQ is the 2nd largest stock exchange in the world, i'd say Gentoo works damn well in the enterprise since there isn't any much bigger test for it than this. |
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forrestfunk81 Guru
Joined: 07 Feb 2006 Posts: 565 Location: münchen.de
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Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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Crooksey wrote: |
Im sorry, but you mean portage can be used on either Gentoo or FreeBSD?
Gentoo Linux is called "Gentoo Linux" on the homepage because its a linux system, with linux libs and a Linux kernel.
FreeBSD is BSD because of its libs and kernel.
Some IBM packages will only run on a Linux system and wont run on FreeBSD with compat linux, so thats why I use Linux (Gentoo) when I cant use FreeBSD due to a lack of IBM support for freeBSD |
He meant the Gentoo/FreeBSD Project.
Quote: | Gentoo/FreeBSD (or Gentoo/FBSD, or G/FBSD) is an effort to create a complete FreeBSD-based Gentoo system, sharing the complete administration facilities of Gentoo with the reliability of the FreeBSD kernel and userland. |
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Crooksey Apprentice
Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 239 Location: Vatican City
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:31 am Post subject: |
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Yes, so what I was saying was his statement was incorrect. |
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cach0rr0 Bodhisattva
Joined: 13 Nov 2008 Posts: 4123 Location: Houston, Republic of Texas
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:21 am Post subject: |
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we use it heavily at my work
for everything except systems where we're installing one of our binary RPM's - for these systems it's mostly meaningless what distro we use
or, for systems where the VPS providers (we use craptons of VPS's) do not offer Gentoo and/or have no way to install your own distro
but for everything else, by my choice (I get to make those decisions!), we use Gentoo.
A chunk of web servers
A chunk of database servers
A chunk of load balancers
A chunk of DNS servers
Our internal mail server
Our VPN's
heaps of stuff. I need the granular level of control Gentoo gives us. Bonus points? This is great for my job security.
We are a SaaS vendor, with many many users. Not saying the company name, largely as I don't want it being associated with my occasionally dickish behaviour on the forums
But my paycheck depends on Gentoo being"enterprise ready". And it is. So I get my paycheck. _________________ Lost configuring your system?
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Yamakuzure Advocate
Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Posts: 2284 Location: Adendorf, Germany
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:53 am Post subject: Re: Gentoo in the enterprise |
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slugggerzzz wrote: | Does anyone run Gentoo in there business ? | My company laptop is set up using Gentoo with latest geek-sources (init6 overlay), a heavily mixed tree (478 entries in /etc/portage/package.keywords) and 10 overlays using layman.
My company desktop uses Gentoo with almost stable-only tree (only a view items unkeyworded) and very few overlays (init6 + sunrise).
The laptop is used for all the "office" stuff, the desktop is a development machine. _________________ Important German:- "Aha" - German reaction to pretend that you are really interested while giving no f*ck.
- "Tja" - German reaction to the apocalypse, nuclear war, an alien invasion or no bread in the house.
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Hypnos Advocate
Joined: 18 Jul 2002 Posts: 2889 Location: Omnipresent
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:20 am Post subject: |
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I'm a research scientist. I run Gentoo on my laptop and my calculation server.
Gentoo is the only Linux platform I know of where I can precisely control my toolchain (necessary for some research software to work) while still getting the latest greatest software and security updates.
To reduce headaches I mostly use stable software, and only upgrade when a package disappears from the Portage tree or I explicitly want the latest version for some features. _________________ Personal overlay | Simple backup scheme |
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Suicidal l33t
Joined: 30 Jul 2003 Posts: 959 Location: /dev/null
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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I use it on on VMware. I have a hardened vm template that can be used for just about any purpose. DNS, NFS, LAMP, network testing, network monitoring, router for virtual test environments that I dont want visible on my main network.
I also have a hosted xen server I use to convert portage to git so I can get live syncs behind my firewall via https. |
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