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NotQuiteSane Guru


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dmitchell Veteran


Joined: 17 May 2003 Posts: 1154 Location: Austin, Texas
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Secession is always a good idea. _________________ Your argument is invalid. |
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pjp Administrator


Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 16029 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:04 am Post subject: Re: A divided Germany, once again? |
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| NotQuiteSane wrote: | | http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/27/world/europe/bavaria-political-shifts-could-have-wide-effects.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all& | Took too long to get to anything meaningful. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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sugar Guru


Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 579 Location: Morrinsville, New Zealand
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BoneKracker Veteran


Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:12 am Post subject: |
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Bavaria is tired of the rest of Germany, especially energyman76b and his no-sense-of-humor, anally retentive friends, leeching off them, not to mention the PIIGS. _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
-- Headline of a document on Winston Smith's terminal in his cubicle at the Ministry of Truth, seen briefly in the background in one scene of the movie rendition of Nineteen Eighty-Four. |
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sugar Guru


Joined: 07 Aug 2004 Posts: 579 Location: Morrinsville, New Zealand
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:27 am Post subject: |
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We've had 5 elections under MMP so far. There seems to be a trend, in that , generally, smaller parties that find favour and get over the 5% threshold tend (or get an MP into government) to get beaten back down in the following election. It's almost as if the public tend to feel as if the small parties have too much power in government, or internal small party politics tend to rip the party apart on the inside.
Is this something that's seen in Germany? _________________ Jesus Could Be Their Candidate and the Republicans Would Still Lose |
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Clad in Sky l33t


Joined: 04 May 2007 Posts: 657 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Kinda. We have, however, not many small parties that get over the 5% threshhold. For years there have been CDU (conservatives), SPD (labour), FDP (liberals), Die Grünen (greens) and lately Die Linke (left wing). Die Grünen have been part of the parliament since the late 80s or early 90s, the other parties nearly since after WWII (not sure about the FDP, might have joined in later) and Die Linken came even later (naturally, since they were founded in 2007). Other than these 5, no other party has been in parliament as far as I can remember. Die Piratepartei (Pirate party) might make it into the Bundestag next year - we'll see what happens then. Probably the latter, i.e. that the party will be ripped apart from the inside.
But that's got nothing to do with the secession of Bavaria. _________________ Kali Ma
Now it's autumn of the aeons
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genstorm Advocate


Joined: 05 Apr 2007 Posts: 2241 Location: Austria
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:16 am Post subject: |
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What about a new Novemberrevolution in Bavaria?  _________________ backend.cpp:92:2: warning: #warning TODO - this error message is about as useful as a cooling unit in the arctic |
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energyman76b Advocate


Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 2022 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Bavaria can always leave - after they paid back the trillions they got in help until the middle of the 80s. With interest. _________________
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Libertardian denial of reality is wholly unimpressive and unconvincing, and simply serves to demonstrate what a bunch of delusional fools they all are.
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mdeininger Veteran


Joined: 15 Jun 2005 Posts: 1738 Location: University of Tuebingen, Germany
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| energyman76b wrote: | | Bavaria can always leave - after they paid back the trillions they got in help until the middle of the 80s. With interest. | lol, yeah right. and what would you do? try to force them?
Chances are if they'd try to leave, so would at least Württemberg. I'm giving the Saarland a fair chance at trying the same, although they'd probably get swallowed by the French. _________________ "Confident, lazy, cocky, dead." -- Felix Jongleur, Otherland
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