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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:39 pm    Post subject: anybody can help me with gentoo install new laptop[solved] Reply with quote

i got a brand new laptop toshiba satellie C855D-S5232
the lie dvd does not boot from dvd/cd drive.
there is no way to to get in to the bios.
windows 7 is installed oem.
user manual does not give any elp on this issue
anybody using this laptop model?

edit:
thanks for all replies .
the keyboard F1--F12 is set in bios so i had to use FN button and F12
thanks :)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boot System Rescue CD off a USB thumbstick and install with that?

It's very unusual for a machine not to be able to boot a bootable optical disc, though.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmmm how is it?
i expand the iso in the usb stick?
hwsetup shows a usb boot option.
but does not show if it is usb hdd or stick
i will try and get back
thanks for the reply
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

padoor wrote:
mmmm how is it?
i expand the iso in the usb stick?

Usually mounting the ISO on /mnt/cdrom and running /mnt/cdrom/usb_inst.sh creates a good working usb stick.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There has got to be a way to get to bios setup. Did you try pressing like esc, f1, delete, f12, f9 during boot (these seem to be the most common bios override keys)...

On my laptop it's f9 that will bring up a boot menu, and there I can select a USB cdrom drive (it has no internal drive!)
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

for boot-selection:

press F12 while booting it up - the boot menu should show up



about access to the bios:

not so sure :/



probable manual:

http://forums.toshiba.com/tshb/attachments/tshb/brd_gen/44139/1/Sat-SatProC800_12Mar30.pdf
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Common BIOS keys are Esc, F1, F2, F9, F10, and F12, and Del. If none of them work, you probably need to use Windows. I recall working on a Toshiba laptop that had no way to access the BIOS at boot, you had to enter the BIOS through Windows using Toshiba's "special" program, downloadable from their website.

If that's the case, you'll have to keep a Windows partition on your laptop (well, if you want to access the BIOS, anyway.)
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch! Now I got yet another reason to never buy a Toshiba laptop (although I was very pleased with their phones - had two models with Windows Mobile).
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

F12 pressed while power button pressing gets into bios setup.
they call it ODD the dvd-ram optical drive.
from within windows toshiba hot keys show the boot setup options.
as i could not get what is ODD all these post and answers.
now it boots up from livedvd installation can prceed.
can anybody tell if toshiba bios checks checksum for other partitioning schemes and fail to boot?
current partition lis is
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Code:
entoo@Gentoo-11 ~ $ sudo su
Gentoo-11 gentoo # fdisk -l

Disk /dev/sda: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders, total 625142448 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x17df695f

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *        2048     3074047     1536000   27  Hidden NTFS WinRE
/dev/sda2         3074048   597186559   297056256    7  HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
/dev/sda3       597186560   625141759    13977600   17  Hidden HPFS/NTFS
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i am really afraid to make changes in the hdd as it is a brand new laptop with one yr warranty.
there is a recovery partition for windows 7

is it safe to proceed with gentoo installation?

as there is only one big partition of windows 7 can i resize [downsize ] by 50Gb and use it for gentoo? without windows 7 failing
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the hidden partitions is the Windows Recovery partition. I haven't seen the Toshiba BIOS checksum the partition tables.

You can shrink the Windows partition by using a gparted boot disc - shrink it down, then (VERY important) boot into Windows before doing anything. It will have to check the filesystem structure and make sure everything is OK.

Ideally, you'd want to move the last hidden partition to the start of the free space after shrinking that large Windows partition. Then you can create an extended partition set and create swap, boot, and / for gentoo.

If you are worried about the original partitions, you can always take an image of each partition before modifying anything. Got a spare usb HDD nearby? It's a good idea, in case the shrinking and moving partitions around fails.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you've a seagate or WD harddrive

there's a free trueimage liveCD of both manufacturers available


I highly recommend using that since I had less successful experience with other tools in the past

by chance I also got a new laptop a few weeks ago and trueimage was really handy in restoring the original partitions - which I needed to register the laptop via windows
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Code:
gentoo@Gentoo-11 ~ $ sudo su
Gentoo-11 gentoo # lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 14h Processor Root Complex
00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9809
00:01.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Wrestler HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 6250/6310]
00:11.0 SATA controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson SATA Controller [AHCI mode]
00:12.0 USB Controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson USB OHCI Controller (rev 11)
00:12.2 USB Controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson USB EHCI Controller (rev 11)
00:13.0 USB Controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson USB OHCI Controller (rev 11)
00:13.2 USB Controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson USB EHCI Controller (rev 11)
00:14.0 SMBus: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson SMBus Controller (rev 14)
00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson Azalia Controller (rev 01)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson LPC Bridge (rev 11)
00:14.4 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson PCI Bridge (rev 40)
00:14.7 SD Host controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson SD Flash Controller
00:15.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Device 43a0
00:15.1 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Device 43a1
00:16.0 USB Controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson USB OHCI Controller (rev 11)
00:16.2 USB Controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Hudson USB EHCI Controller (rev 11)
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 0 (rev 43)
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 1
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 2
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 3
00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 4
00:18.5 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 6
00:18.6 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 5
00:18.7 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 12h/14h Processor Function 7
02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. Device 8723
06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 05)
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i have problems selecting processor.
the laptop spec says duocore amd 1.4 Ghz each[2 processors i think]64bit processors.
but kernel menuconfig does not find such a prcessor
need some advices on kernel configurations.
i have now mounted my old laptop hdd from usb and chrooted into live dvd boot.
any guidance on make.conf,kernel cofig,and profile setting needed.
thanks for any advice.
this laptop can boot from usb hdd also.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2012 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Either use "Generic-x86-64" from processor family or use 'Opteron/Athlon64/Hammer/K8'.
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