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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 6:43 pm    Post subject: Is there a way around polkit ? Reply with quote

I have noticed that Polkit is a usability problem.
It uses a programing language (Java) for configs, is difficult to configure without any Gentoo documentation, and completely lacks a way to test rules.
It turns Gentoo into XP and adds allot more overhead than the older hal based systems.
In addition it prevents udisks-glue from functioning properly.
For example if udisks-glue is started as root from local and a user plugs in a usb device it wont be mounted in the plugdev group.
Polkit is generally not necessary for a single user system like a laptop and was designed for enterprise sysadmins.
Is there some sort of workaround for simple single user systems on older hardware?

I suppose I could check equery:

Code:
 * These packages depend on polkit:
gnome-base/gconf-2.32.4 (policykit ? sys-auth/polkit)
gnome-extra/polkit-gnome-0.101-r1 (>=sys-auth/polkit-0.101[introspection])
net-print/hplip-3.11.10 (policykit ? sys-auth/polkit)
sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.5-r1 (>=sys-auth/polkit-0.101-r1)
sys-auth/polkit-qt-0.99.0 (>=sys-auth/polkit-0.99)
sys-fs/udisks-1.0.4-r1 (>=sys-auth/polkit-0.97)
sys-power/upower-0.9.13-r1 (>=sys-auth/polkit-0.101-r1)


Thoughts ?
Edit well leave it to the minimalists over at puppy:
i just compiled this:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/58347439/pup-vm/pup-volume-monitor-0.1.5.tar.gz

Discussion here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=78881

Edit well looking at the source it would need some work to run on gentoo.
I can compile it OK but it has a few puppy specific things to it.

I suppose I need to ditch udisks too:
http://igurublog.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/udisks2-another-loss-for-linux/

Well i decided to submit a bug to see if anyone is interested in migrating away from this *kit stuff:
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Is there a way around polkit ? Reply with quote

turtles wrote:
workaround for simple single user systems on older hardware?

Stay with polkit 0.105 (thus no javascript), and keep an eye on what major distros such as Debian and Ubuntu do?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not able to make current Polkit work with 104 or 105 work with sys-fs/udisks-glue.
And polkit provides no way to "debug" the custom rules needed to automaticly mount usb drives in the plugdev group.
I am thinking there should be another path for laptops with one user.

EDIT just thinking out of the box has anyone run devd on linux?

EDIT 2 Andriod does not have room for all the kitchensinkit stuff they have no udev even.

http://www.netmite.com/android/mydroid/development/pdk/docs/bring_up.html
Interesting
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