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/RoboCop plot.
About OP: Gun controls are on its way. Obama will implement them.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 5:37 pm Post subject: Re: Bloomberg: Cops Should Strike Until Citizens Disarm |
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For one, if every cop stopped doing their job, we'd need more citizens with guns, not no citizens with guns.
For two, only cops wear bullet-proof vests? What about crazy people who wear them while they go on rampages? (Didn't the recent Colorado man have one?) It's not like it's illegal to obtain one (and if it were, my gosh, that'd be stupid). |
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pjp
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Wow. Bloomberg is more stupid than I thought.
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| all police going on strike would, literally, be a once in a life time dream come true day(s). |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 1:54 am Post subject: Re: Bloomberg: Cops Should Strike Until Citizens Disarm |
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| nomilieu wrote: | | It's not like it's illegal to obtain one (and if it were, my gosh, that'd be stupid). |
I think two states, New York and Connecticut, either are thinking of or have made them illegal for non cops/military. |
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Bloomberg actually broke the law by saying this. It is explicitly against the law for public officials to encourage public safety workers to strike. His lawyers were probably facepalming as he did it, and he quickly recanted, saying, "I didn't actually mean <what I said>".
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| notageek wrote: | /RoboCop plot.
About OP: Gun controls are on its way. Obama will implement them. |
He has "consistently said" that he will not, but he will "have more flexibility after his re-election".
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| BoneKracker wrote: | | Bloomberg actually broke the law by saying this. |
I was just going to ask that, very odd thing to do... |
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pjp
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| BoneKracker wrote: | | Bloomberg actually broke the law by saying this. It is explicitly against the law for public officials to encourage public safety workers to strike. His lawyers were probably facepalming as he did it, and he quickly recanted, saying, "I didn't actually mean <what I said>". |
lol
Didn't know that.
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Since when are cops considered public safety officers? Does anyone feel safe around cops?
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So you must really like when they're referred to as Peace Officers. :D
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| dmitchell wrote: | | Since when are cops considered public safety officers? |
Pre 1968.
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Not me.
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| dmitchell wrote: | | Since when are cops considered public safety officers? Does anyone feel safe around cops? |
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| dmitchell wrote: | | Since when are cops considered public safety officers? Does anyone feel safe around cops? |
I feel perfectly safe around police, possibly because a know a good deal of them personally. I think I can extrapolate from your position a certain ideological and completely irrational distrust of police based on a convoluted mentality that causes you to beloved that people who work for the government to be nasty blood sucking leeches while people who do the exact same job for the private sector are somehow paragon of goodness.
Due to my interaction with various police agencies i can say that from an anthropological perspective, you are way off base. Most cops are not power tripping genital insecure gun toting wannabee badasses that couldn't hack it in the real world whatever you think that means. Mostly they are regular guys and gals who love their communities and want to protect it.
Its funny in a sad way that someone would create an ideology that is so fearful of conflict that he would turtle to the actual world around him. He would divest himself from the political process, regularly verbally assault those with the moral fortitude to make hard decisions for the betterment of the society. It is a very cowardly way to look at the world. |
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I thought turtling was when you have a turd poking an inch or two out your ass.
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| BoneKracker wrote: | | Bloomberg actually broke the law by saying this. It is explicitly against the law for public officials to encourage public safety workers to strike. His lawyers were probably facepalming as he did it, and he quickly recanted, saying, "I didn't actually mean <what I said>". |
Wait, public safety workers are allowed to go on strike?
| BoneKracker wrote: | | I thought turtling was when you have a turd poking an inch or two out your ass. |
Thats turdling. I'm sure cach0rr0 can elaborate. |
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| I like wswartzendruber's title much better than the actual citation. The police officers in the USA should strike with all force necessary until The People surrender. |
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| bogamol wrote: | | dmitchell wrote: | | Since when are cops considered public safety officers? Does anyone feel safe around cops? |
I feel perfectly safe around police, possibly because a know a good deal of them personally. I think I can extrapolate from your position a certain ideological and completely irrational distrust of police based on a convoluted mentality that causes you to beloved that people who work for the government to be nasty blood sucking leeches while people who do the exact same job for the private sector are somehow paragon of goodness.
Due to my interaction with various police agencies i can say that from an anthropological perspective, you are way off base. Most cops are not power tripping genital insecure gun toting wannabee badasses that couldn't hack it in the real world whatever you think that means. Mostly they are regular guys and gals who love their communities and want to protect it.
Its funny in a sad way that someone would create an ideology that is so fearful of conflict that he would turtle to the actual world around him. He would divest himself from the political process, regularly verbally assault those with the moral fortitude to make hard decisions for the betterment of the society. It is a very cowardly way to look at the world. |
Or it could be because a non-trivial quantity of cops shoot or taze anything which twitches in their general direction, or if they're bored, just plain old beat people to death. From that perspective, it's completely rational to fear them, that is the desired effect, after all. Rent-a-cops wouldn't get away with it, why should real cops?
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| notageek wrote: | /RoboCop plot.
About OP: Gun controls are on its way. Obama will implement them. |
your right, no matter what the lawmakers say or do or what laws they pass obama is going to do what he wants, if he doesnt like the law he wont enforce it, and if they dont make a law he wants he will just execute an executive order to do what he wants anyways. both situations he has done before, ignoring laws he doesn't like, like with wellfare, and abusing his powers of executive order, like him nationalizing student illegals.
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| BoneKracker wrote: | | I thought turtling was when you have a turd poking an inch or two out your ass. |
Around here, that's known as prairie dogging. |
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| aidanjt wrote: | | bogamol wrote: | | dmitchell wrote: | | Since when are cops considered public safety officers? Does anyone feel safe around cops? |
I feel perfectly safe around police, possibly because a know a good deal of them personally. I think I can extrapolate from your position a certain ideological and completely irrational distrust of police based on a convoluted mentality that causes you to beloved that people who work for the government to be nasty blood sucking leeches while people who do the exact same job for the private sector are somehow paragon of goodness.
Due to my interaction with various police agencies i can say that from an anthropological perspective, you are way off base. Most cops are not power tripping genital insecure gun toting wannabee badasses that couldn't hack it in the real world whatever you think that means. Mostly they are regular guys and gals who love their communities and want to protect it.
Its funny in a sad way that someone would create an ideology that is so fearful of conflict that he would turtle to the actual world around him. He would divest himself from the political process, regularly verbally assault those with the moral fortitude to make hard decisions for the betterment of the society. It is a very cowardly way to look at the world. |
Or it could be because a non-trivial quantity of cops shoot or taze anything which twitches in their general direction, or if they're bored, just plain old beat people to death. From that perspective, it's completely rational to fear them, that is the desired effect, after all. Rent-a-cops wouldn't get away with it, why should real cops? |
Exactly correct. Their whole mode of operation is one of intimidation and violence.
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| bogamol wrote: | | Mostly they are regular guys and gals who love their communities and want to protect it. |
I don't doubt that at all, but a growing anti-intellectualism, distrust of personal liberty, and a backsliding approaching caste-systems from the middle ages leads me to believe that law enforcement can easily go overboard. In the current state, how can any officer carry their idealism into armed combat? There's no shortage of examples to show it's becoming impossible. I'd go so far as to say it's not a goal anymore. If your beliefs cause you to question your superior then what use are you?
People seldom act with evil intent - we just twist our morality to fit our personal comfort zone.
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| bogamol wrote: | I feel perfectly safe around police, possibly because a know a good deal of them personally. I think I can extrapolate from your position a certain ideological and completely irrational distrust of police based on a convoluted mentality that causes you to beloved that people who work for the government to be nasty blood sucking leeches while people who do the exact same job for the private sector are somehow paragon of goodness.
Due to my interaction with various police agencies i can say that from an anthropological perspective, you are way off base. Most cops are not power tripping genital insecure gun toting wannabee badasses that couldn't hack it in the real world whatever you think that means. Mostly they are regular guys and gals who love their communities and want to protect it. |
I've never criticized cops for being unlikable on a personal level. Hitler and Stalin both loved kids and dogs, so what's your point?
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lol
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| dmitchell wrote: | | I've never criticized cops for being unlikable on a personal level. Hitler and Stalin both loved kids and dogs, so what's your point? |
The Khmer Rouge were also very dedicated to the well-being of society.
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