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ccube
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 Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:24 pm Post subject: gnome-terminal slows down whole desktop |
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Hi,
i am using gnome 3 desktop with cinnamon.
open source radeon driver. (evergreen card in a dell notebook)
when gnome-terminal is scrolling a large amount of text, the whole desktop is horribly slow.
the bigger the terminal window, the slower the desktop. even if terminal is not visible (minimized for example)
is there anything i can do? |
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BillWho
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:25 pm Post subject: Re: gnome-terminal slows down whole desktop |
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| ccube wrote: | when gnome-terminal is scrolling a large amount of text, the whole desktop is horribly slow.
the bigger the terminal window, the slower the desktop. even if terminal is not visible (minimized for example)
is there anything i can do? |
Is it just gnome-terminal or does gedit or any other application also exhibit slow scrolling 
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ccube
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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since other applications do not autoscroll fast like gnome-terminal (e.g. emerge --sync), i cannot say this for sure.
i can say that it is much more performant when using fglrx (which is not an option for me) |
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BillWho
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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ccube,
It might be the direct rendering infrastructure. I 'm using the radeon driver too, but no compositing with the lxde desktop.
A couple of things to check:
| Code: | bill@gentoo-gateway ~/.ssh $ dmesg|grep -i "drm\] Initializ"
[ 27.218106] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[ 27.320782] [drm] initializing kernel modesetting (RS780 0x1002:0x9610 0x1025:0x0155).
[ 27.518059] [drm] Initialized radeon 2.17.0 20080528 for 0000:01:05.0 on minor 0
bill@gentoo-gateway ~/.ssh $ glxinfo|grep render
direct rendering: Yes
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RS780
GL_EXT_vertex_array_bgra, GL_NV_conditional_render,
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Are you sure the radeon module is loaded and it's not falling back to vesa
| Code: | root@gentoo-gateway bill # lspci -k|awk '/VGA/,/Kernel/'
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS780 [Radeon HD 3200]
Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device 0155
Kernel driver in use: radeon
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Also make sure you have VIDEO_CARDS="radeon" in make.conf
If all that looks good then try x11-terms/terminator - it has a few more features like splitting screens.
Good luck
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ccube
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| Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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le@le1558 /lu $ dmesg|grep -i "drm\] Initializ"
[ 27.719987] [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[ 27.786200] [drm] initializing kernel modesetting (CEDAR 0x1002:0x68E0 0x1028:0x0413).
[ 29.268585] [drm] Initialized radeon 2.17.0 20080528 for 0000:02:00.0 on minor 0
le@le1558 /lu $ glxinfo|grep render
direct rendering: Yes
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD CEDAR
GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_AMD_conservative_depth,
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le1558 lu # lspci -k|awk '/VGA/,/Kernel/'
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series]
Subsystem: Dell Device 0413
Kernel driver in use: radeon
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le1558 lu # grep radeon /etc/make.conf
VIDEO_CARDS="radeon"
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ccube
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:02 am Post subject: |
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| Installed terminator now. Looks like a very nice tool, but has the same Problem. |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:04 am Post subject: |
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ccube,
Everything looks perfect 
What about:
| Code: | root@gentoo-gateway bill # lsmod|grep radeon
radeon 714005 2
drm_kms_helper 20916 1 radeon
ttm 51155 1 radeon
drm 181993 4 ttm,drm_kms_helper,radeon
i2c_algo_bit 4401 1 radeon
root@gentoo-gateway bill # dmesg|grep fbcon
[ 27.475228] fbcon: radeondrmfb (fb0) is primary device
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le@le1558 /lu $ lsmod|grep radeon
radeon 823019 5
drm_kms_helper 24324 1 radeon
ttm 59599 1 radeon
drm 206179 7 ttm,drm_kms_helper,radeon
i2c_algo_bit 4975 1 radeon
le@le1558 /lu $ dmesg|grep fbcon
[ 28.293461] fbcon: radeondrmfb (fb0) is primary device
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le@le1558 /lu $ emerge --info
Portage 2.1.11.4 (default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop/gnome, gcc-4.6.3, glibc-2.15-r2, 3.5.0-rc5 x86_64)
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System uname: Linux-3.5.0-rc5-x86_64-Intel-R-_Core-TM-_i7_CPU_Q_820_@_1.73GHz-with-gentoo-2.1
Timestamp of tree: Mon, 02 Jul 2012 23:45:01 +0000
app-shells/bash: 4.2_p29
dev-java/java-config: 2.1.12
dev-lang/python: 2.7.3-r2, 3.2.3-r1
dev-util/cmake: 2.8.8-r3
dev-util/pkgconfig: 0.26
sys-apps/baselayout: 2.1-r1
sys-apps/openrc: 0.10.4
sys-apps/sandbox: 2.5
sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.69
sys-devel/automake: 1.9.6-r3, 1.10.3, 1.11.5, 1.12.1
sys-devel/binutils: 2.22-r1
sys-devel/gcc: 4.5.3-r2, 4.6.3
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.7.3
sys-devel/libtool: 2.4.2
sys-devel/make: 3.82-r3
sys-kernel/linux-headers: 3.4 (virtual/os-headers)
sys-libs/glibc: 2.15-r2
Repositories: gentoo x-portage luman x11 sunrise
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64 ~amd64"
ACCEPT_LICENSE="*"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=corei7 -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt /usr/share/maven-bin-3.0/conf /usr/share/openvpn/easy-rsa"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/dconf /etc/env.d /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release /etc/php/apache2-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/php/apache2-php5.4/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/php/cgi-php5.4/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5.3/ext-active/ /etc/php/cli-php5.4/ext-active/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/language.dat.d /etc/texmf/language.def.d /etc/texmf/updmap.d /etc/texmf/web2c"
CXXFLAGS="-march=corei7 -O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs=15 --load-average=8.5"
FCFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
FEATURES="assume-digests binpkg-logs config-protect-if-modified distlocks ebuild-locks fixlafiles news parallel-fetch parse-eapi-ebuild-head protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unknown-features-warn unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch"
FFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://ftp.uni-erlangen.de/pub/mirrors/gentoo ftp://ftp.tu-clausthal.de/pub/linux/gentoo/ http://ftp.spline.inf.fu-berlin.de/mirrors/gentoo/ ftp://de-mirror.org/distro/gentoo/"
LANG="en_US.utf8"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed"
LINGUAS="en de"
MAKEOPTS="-j8"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --human-readable --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp"
PORTDIR="/usr/portage"
PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage /var/lib/layman/luman /var/lib/layman/x11 /var/lib/layman/sunrise"
SYNC="rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
USE="X a52 aac acl acpi alsa amd64 avahi bash-completion berkdb bluetooth bonjour branding bzip2 cairo cdda cdr cli colord consolekit cracklib crypt cups cxx dbus dri dts dvd dvdr eds emboss encode evo exif fam firefox flac fortran gdbm gif gnome gnome-keyring gnome-online-accounts gpm gstreamer gtk gtkstyle iconv ipv6 java jpeg laptop latex lcms ldap libnotify mad mmx mng modules mp3 mp4 mpeg mudflap multilib nautilus ncurses networkmanager nls nptl nsplugin ogg opengl openmp pam pango pcre pdf perl png policykit ppds pppd pulseaudio python qt3support qt4 readline samba scanner sdl session socialweb spell sse sse2 ssl startup-notification svg tcpd threads tiff truetype udev udisks unicode upower usb vim-syntax vorbis wxwidgets x264 xcb xml xorg xulrunner xv xvid zeroconf zlib" ALSA_CARDS="ali5451 als4000 atiixp atiixp-modem bt87x ca0106 cmipci emu10k1x ens1370 ens1371 es1938 es1968 fm801 hda-intel intel8x0 intel8x0m maestro3 trident usb-audio via82xx via82xx-modem ymfpci" ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS="adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mmap_emul mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic authn_alias authn_anon authn_dbm authn_default authn_file authz_dbm authz_default authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache cgi cgid dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir disk_cache env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers include info log_config logio mem_cache mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif speling status unique_id userdir usertrack vhost_alias" CALLIGRA_FEATURES="kexi words flow plan sheets stage tables krita karbon braindump" CAMERAS="ptp2" COLLECTD_PLUGINS="df interface irq load memory rrdtool swap syslog" ELIBC="glibc" GPSD_PROTOCOLS="ashtech aivdm earthmate evermore fv18 garmin garmintxt gpsclock itrax mtk3301 nmea ntrip navcom oceanserver oldstyle oncore rtcm104v2 rtcm104v3 sirf superstar2 timing tsip tripmate tnt ubx" INPUT_DEVICES="keyboard mouse evdev synaptics" KERNEL="linux" LCD_DEVICES="bayrad cfontz cfontz633 glk hd44780 lb216 lcdm001 mtxorb ncurses text" LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="presenter-console presenter-minimizer" LINGUAS="en de" PHP_TARGETS="php5-3" PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_2 python2_7" USERLAND="GNU" VIDEO_CARDS="radeon" XTABLES_ADDONS="quota2 psd pknock lscan length2 ipv4options ipset ipp2p iface geoip fuzzy condition tee tarpit sysrq steal rawnat logmark ipmark dhcpmac delude chaos account"
Unset: CPPFLAGS, CTARGET, INSTALL_MASK, LC_ALL, PORTAGE_BUNZIP2_COMMAND, PORTAGE_COMPRESS, PORTAGE_COMPRESS_FLAGS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, USE_PYTHON
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ccube
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le1558 lu # eix -Ic | grep 9999
[I] app-text/scrollkeeper (9999-r1@01/26/2012): Dummy scrollkeeper for testing rarian
[I] media-libs/mesa (9999[2]@07/03/2012): OpenGL-like graphic library for Linux
[I] sys-apps/hwids (99999999@06/14/2012): Hardware (PCI, USB) IDs databases
[I] sys-fs/btrfs-progs (9999@07/01/2012): Btrfs filesystem utilities
[I] sys-kernel/next-sources [1] (9999(9999)@07/02/2012): The linux-next integration testing tree
[I] x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati (9999[2]@06/29/2012): ATI video driver
[I] x11-libs/libdrm (9999[2]@06/30/2012): X.Org libdrm library
[I] x11-proto/glproto (9999[2]@06/14/2012): X.Org GL protocol headers
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:33 am Post subject: |
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ccube,
Could be the version of mesa and/or libdrm
Mine are media-libs/mesa-8.0.3 and x11-libs/libdrm-2.4.33 running on sys-kernel/git-sources-3.5_rc5
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:58 am Post subject: |
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the problem persists also when downgrading to ~amd64 packages.
actually i have the problem since using gnome3 |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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| ccube wrote: | | actually i have the problem since using gnome3 |
There's your culprit 
I use the no-frills lxde - I just don't find the new gnome interface all that intuitive and it's much too bloated
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Hi, can you post this :
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# cd /usr/src/linux
# cat .config | grep -i CONFIG_HZ
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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le@le1558 /lu $ grep HZ /usr/src/linux/.config
CONFIG_NO_HZ=y
# CONFIG_RCU_FAST_NO_HZ is not set
# CONFIG_HZ_100 is not set
# CONFIG_HZ_250 is not set
# CONFIG_HZ_300 is not set
CONFIG_HZ_1000=y
CONFIG_HZ=1000
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| BillWho wrote: | | ccube wrote: | | actually i have the problem since using gnome3 |
There's your culprit
I use the no-frills lxde - I just don't find the new gnome interface all that intuitive and it's much too bloated
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so, this is the reason for using cinnamon from the linux mint guys.
gnome-shell is a big mess. :-\ |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| So, i emerged lxde now and my notebook feels like i upgraded from an Pentium 2 to an corei7 extreme... |
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You could try also Xfce or Openbox too.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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i dont like xfce.
what is the diff. between openbox and lxde? lxde uses openbox? |
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