Anybody here using systemd yet (in Gentoo, that is)?

BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.

Anybody here using systemd yet (in Gentoo, that is)? Why or why not? Are most services functional under it? Any key ones that aren't? Problems? How much does it suck?
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I worry that systemd will fork off as a completely different operating system based on the concept of a monolithic kernel paired with a monolithic privileged userspace. I worry that it's like The Blob, inexorably growing and swallowing up everything that it touches.
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wswartzendruber · Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:06 am Post subject:

I'm on systemd. Good so far.

Mardok45 · Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:07 am Post subject:

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We'll end up with 3 things on our computers: the kernel, systemd, and emacs.
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Mardok45 · Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:12 am Post subject:

Well, BK, here's my first major problem in a while (though it's completely my fault):

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-927400-highlight-.html

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erm67 · Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:51 am Post subject:

I went fully with systemd some time ago (not on gentoo), but for some strange reason, the lap was booting faster but not all devices were initialized correctly (I immagine a delay at some point could have solved the problem). Being too lazy I decided to uninstall and wait for better times, I might give it a try again one of this days.
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pjp · Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 4:17 pm Post subject:

Does it offer any advantages if you don't try to cut corners to shave off a few milliseconds of bootime?
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energyman76b · Advocate Joined: 26 Mar 2003 Posts: 2022 Location: Germany

if you are concerned about boot time use suspend-to-ram.

Problem solved. No systemd needed.
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erm67 · Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:08 pm Post subject:

Faster booting was for me more a side effect that was giving me headaches :-)

I just wanted to try this new wonderful piece of .... software from L.P. :-)

I think system is all part of an attempt to fix pulseaudio, he always complained that the fault was in how the system was started so wrote systemd to try and fix pulseudio, when it didn't worked started complaining the fault was in udev and merged it in systemd, now is complaining that the problems are caused by the driver and probably is busy working to merge linux with systemd to fix pulseaudio. I read he already determined the probably the bios is also causing problems and will need to be included in systemd to finally fix pulseaudio.
I am starting to think it would be easier to scrap pulseaudio.
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Dr.Willy · Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:20 pm Post subject:

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pjp · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:20 am Post subject:

Maybe they're all users of tablets.
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sikpuppy · Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:31 am Post subject:

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BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.

Interesting. I have five virtual terminals open: three under X in urxvtc (two as myself and one su root); plus two outside of X (one as myself and one system console), and 'uptime' only shows 1 user (as does 'w' and 'who').

Maybe tracking these all as separate users is a side effect of consolekit (which I do not use). Seems to me they're not separate users, but seperate shell sessions.

Or maybe you have your vt set up to initate all terminal sessions as login sessions.
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aidanjt · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:25 am Post subject: