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| drizek wrote: | | Does no one remember him referring to ACPI as "the other Intel brain damage"? |
I don't, but it isn't surprising.
| pitcrawler wrote: | | He can say whatever he wants, you bunch of ungrateful gits. |
Nobody said he couldn't. But being an asshat isn't going to improve the situation.
WHY WON'T YOU WORK WITH ME YOU IGNORANT POS SOB?
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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hes also been putting up with their BS for over a decade now...
you can only fit soo much fertilizer into a bag before it turns into a bomb...
and Torvalds has never been afraid to tell people what he thinks, and i still like him more than richard stallman
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Prenj
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| djdunn wrote: | | and Torvalds has never been afraid to tell people what he thinks, and i still like him more than richard stallman |
Well, we all have to grow up or try our best at some point. |
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aidanjt
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Prenj wrote: | Naah its more a sign of white-trash uppbringing.
Not talking about status, but about the fact that other people may not appreciate everything that you produce. It's kinda same category as farting at dinner table. Some think its funny, some think its forcing the people you eat dinner with to inhale your shit particles and methane, and accusing them of pussy-footing if they protest (which is the offending part, putting blame on them).
The difference in uppbringing is that in some families, everybody congratulates you on your fart and tells fond stories about how uncle Mike's farts smell really bad. The reason for this lax attitude can be two-fold, either you are royalty, and it is in your genes to fart if you are on the top of the foodchain, just because you can (Calligula), or you are peasant who stands in shit all day anyway, so one fart more or less doesn't make any difference.
Everybody who figured out the way to not stand in shit anymore doesn't appreciate it, and is told at young age that it is not polite.
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Phoney politeness is practically universal in English-speaking countries. And anyone who finds a natural digestive process 'offensive' *really* deserves to be offended.. or lobotomised.. Because the only other thing which grates with me more than phoney politeness is phoney outrage.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| aidanjt wrote: | | Prenj wrote: | Naah its more a sign of white-trash uppbringing.
Not talking about status, but about the fact that other people may not appreciate everything that you produce. It's kinda same category as farting at dinner table. Some think its funny, some think its forcing the people you eat dinner with to inhale your shit particles and methane, and accusing them of pussy-footing if they protest (which is the offending part, putting blame on them).
The difference in uppbringing is that in some families, everybody congratulates you on your fart and tells fond stories about how uncle Mike's farts smell really bad. The reason for this lax attitude can be two-fold, either you are royalty, and it is in your genes to fart if you are on the top of the foodchain, just because you can (Calligula), or you are peasant who stands in shit all day anyway, so one fart more or less doesn't make any difference.
Everybody who figured out the way to not stand in shit anymore doesn't appreciate it, and is told at young age that it is not polite.
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Phoney politeness is practically universal in English-speaking countries. And anyone who finds a natural digestive process 'offensive' *really* deserves to be offended.. or lobotomised.. Because the only other thing which grates with me more than phoney politeness is phoney outrage. |
It's not natural digestive process that I find offensive, but other peoples shit particles. How hard can it be to go outside and fart? |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| Prenj wrote: | | It's not natural digestive process that I find offensive, but other peoples shit particles. |
There is no shit particles. It's just gas.
| Prenj wrote: | | How hard can it be to go outside and fart? |
How hard is it to go outside and wait for it to dissipate? Or kill yourself, you know, since you fart as well and 'spread shit particles', that's the only solution which guarantees you'll never have to whiff a fart again.
Or is it ok for you to do it just because it's you?
See. Phoney outrage. Hypocrisy. And you wonder why Linus couldn't be bothered not farting at the table. And in the context of the kind of work Linus does, ripping one out at the table might save lives, or at the very least, tens of thousands of developer hours.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| aidanjt wrote: | | Prenj wrote: | | It's not natural digestive process that I find offensive, but other peoples shit particles. |
There is no shit particles. It's just gas. |
Semantics. Everything is particles. What makes farts stink is hydrogen sulfide and other particles. If you think your farts are pure gas and contain no "shit particles" then you'll have to explain why they don't always smell exactly the same, and you've never looked at your underwear after an overwhelming wave of flatulence.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:22 am Post subject: |
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| Heh. You said fart. |
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Prenj
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| aidanjt wrote: | | Prenj wrote: | | It's not natural digestive process that I find offensive, but other peoples shit particles. |
There is no shit particles. It's just gas.
| Prenj wrote: | | How hard can it be to go outside and fart? |
How hard is it to go outside and wait for it to dissipate? Or kill yourself, you know, since you fart as well and 'spread shit particles', that's the only solution which guarantees you'll never have to whiff a fart again.
Or is it ok for you to do it just because it's you?
See. Phoney outrage. Hypocrisy. And you wonder why Linus couldn't be bothered not farting at the table. And in the context of the kind of work Linus does, ripping one out at the table might save lives, or at the very least, tens of thousands of developer hours. |
So you are saying not showering and going to work is ok, or talking to people without brushing teeth? I mean if they are offended its their fucking phoney problem, and they should kill themselves?
I see. Your friends probably think you're a blast. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:14 am Post subject: |
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| Prenj wrote: | | So you are saying not showering and going to work is ok, or talking to people without brushing teeth? |
Not even a light year of being remotely relevant to what I said.
And even if it was:
| Prenj wrote: | | I mean if they are offended its their fucking phoney problem, and they should kill themselves? |
Yes. It's no business of yours what other people do, or don't do. You're perfectly free to go away if it bothers you.
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Prenj
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:43 am Post subject: |
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| aidanjt wrote: | | Prenj wrote: | | So you are saying not showering and going to work is ok, or talking to people without brushing teeth? |
Not even a light year of being remotely relevant to what I said.
And even if it was:
| Prenj wrote: | | I mean if they are offended its their fucking phoney problem, and they should kill themselves? |
Yes. It's no business of yours what other people do, or don't do. You're perfectly free to go away if it bothers you. |
Ok, by that logic, it is no business of yours if I decide to sock you in the eye instead either? |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| sikpuppy wrote: | | Heh. You said fart. |
Unfortunately those sounds are too high pitched. A deep, wet slowly vibrating ripping sound would be that board's crowning jewel... sadly they have yet to acquire it.
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| Prenj wrote: | | Ok, by that logic, it is no business of yours if I decide to sock you in the eye instead either? |
So, you do realise you're now so desperate to be right, you're equating a fart with physical violence, right? Let's just have a big phoney offended moanfest yes? Don't like the look of someone? outrage! don't like the book someone is reading? outrage!
No, all complete and utter twaddle. You do what you want to do, and providing you're not harming anyone else, I wont complain, and vice versa. That's how decent free societies work.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| aidanjt wrote: | | Prenj wrote: | | Ok, by that logic, it is no business of yours if I decide to sock you in the eye instead either? |
So, you do realise you're now so desperate to be right, you're equating a fart with physical violence, right? Let's just have a big phoney offended moanfest yes? Don't like the look of someone? outrage! don't like the book someone is reading? outrage!
No, all complete and utter twaddle. You do what you want to do, and providing you're not harming anyone else, I wont complain, and vice versa. That's how decent free societies work. |
I'm not desperate to be right, I am trying to make a point across that I don't like other people's farts. If someone repeatedly farts at my table, in spite of me asking them to do it outside, I will throw them out. You think it's phoney, and that is offending part, because it's genuine. But I guess we have our differences.
By the same logic you are so desperate to be right, so that it doesn't come off that your culture is not as advanced as any other, which is a complex all minor cultures have. |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 9:56 am Post subject: |
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| Prenj wrote: | | I'm not desperate to be right, I am trying to make a point across that I don't like other people's farts. |
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It's noxious gas. To fart around other people and force them to smell the gas from your ass is rude and disgusting. Simply excuse yourself, go to the bathroom (aka The Shitter) and let loose there. You feel satisfied, and the other people aren't gagging from the horrid sulfuric air biscuits the inconsiderate twit decides to 'share'.
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| Muso wrote: | | Prenj wrote: | | I'm not desperate to be right, I am trying to make a point across that I don't like other people's farts. |
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It's noxious gas. To fart around other people and force them to smell the gas from your ass is rude and disgusting. Simply excuse yourself, go to the bathroom (aka The Shitter) and let loose there. You feel satisfied, and the other people aren't gagging from the horrid sulfuric air biscuits the inconsiderate twit decides to 'share'. |
You never kick the child lock on the car roll up the windows and let your friends suffer? |
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I thought ATI drivers where far worse then NVIDIA? So does this mean linux will never get any good games, since you pretty much can only use intel integrated at its full capacity?
Also agreed on linus being an asshat. I also notice a lot of CEOs also doing this ranting lately. AT&T and Verizon doing are good examples of this, just ranting about things in childish ways. |
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| ak47gen wrote: | | Muso wrote: | | Prenj wrote: | | I'm not desperate to be right, I am trying to make a point across that I don't like other people's farts. |
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It's noxious gas. To fart around other people and force them to smell the gas from your ass is rude and disgusting. Simply excuse yourself, go to the bathroom (aka The Shitter) and let loose there. You feel satisfied, and the other people aren't gagging from the horrid sulfuric air biscuits the inconsiderate twit decides to 'share'. |
You never kick the child lock on the car roll up the windows and let your friends suffer? |
No, as I'm not a complete asshole.
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| audiodef wrote: | "Aside from Torvalds' NVIDIA remarks near the end, the entire talk is worth watching."
Not for deaf people. No subs or captions. |
Read lips? |
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| sikpuppy wrote: | | audiodef wrote: | "Aside from Torvalds' NVIDIA remarks near the end, the entire talk is worth watching."
Not for deaf people. No subs or captions. |
Read lips? |
Not unless text is clearly printed on them and the video has a high enough resolution for me to zoom in and lip-gaze.
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| audiodef wrote: | | sikpuppy wrote: | | audiodef wrote: | "Aside from Torvalds' NVIDIA remarks near the end, the entire talk is worth watching."
Not for deaf people. No subs or captions. |
Read lips? |
Not unless text is clearly printed on them and the video has a high enough resolution for me to zoom in and lip-gaze. |
Oh well, that's you stuffed then isn't it. |
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I respect what Torvalds has done for the world of computing, and I think he will rightfully go down in history as an icon in his field.
But! No matter who it is, if someone I've been working with cusses at me for my choice of action over the product of my own mind, that I own, and for which I have no contractual or ethical external obligation, I will simply stop talking to that person. So while I appreciate directness and honesty, Torvalds cussing in public does nothing positive for my opinion of him. Nvidia has no legal or ethical obligation to Linux, or users of Linux. That they provide drivers at all, albeit closed-source, simply indicates that they have made a business decision, recognizing that they would lose a certain amount of customers if they did not do this. In the same vein, if they offer driver features in Windows but not Linux, they can choose to maintain their customer base by providing the same features for Linux users - or not. This is all true for all video graphics companies. The company that groks the business acumen in providing software drivers for their hardware across the most platforms, at high levels of quality, has the largest competitive edge. That said, I'm still waiting for it to happen in the video graphics industry - farts, shit particles and all (I figure I had to mention those, since they're obviously part of this conversation now).
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| Where is NVIDIA's incentive to not leave Linux? |
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | drizek wrote: | | Does no one remember him referring to ACPI as "the other Intel brain damage"? |
I don't, but it isn't surprising.
| pitcrawler wrote: | | He can say whatever he wants, you bunch of ungrateful gits. |
Nobody said he couldn't. But being an asshat isn't going to improve the situation.
WHY WON'T YOU WORK WITH ME YOU IGNORANT POS SOB?
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Good on him. He says out loud what corporate types say in secret. He doesn't have to hire a bunch of lawyers to tell him what to say and when. He doesn't have to answer to shareholders. It's a true expression of freedom that is lost on this generation brought up on corporate secrets, greed and bullsh*t. |
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