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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 10:00 am    Post subject: File info in Dolphin, which package? Reply with quote

Hi!
When I hover the mouse over a file in dolphin, the cursor is only changing to busy, no preview or additional info is shown. I know there was a package for that, but cannot find the name any more. Does anyone know what package that is? It used to show mp3-info or document related stuff...
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is Settings -> General -> Show Tooltips disabled?
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nono, that's active. I remember it is an extra package providing a lot of usful extra-info for some file types. I accidentially uninstalled it a long time ago and can't remember the name :oops:
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Tooltips Feature only works when nepomuk is installed and started.
Maybe you also have to set "semantic-desktop" USE-Flag first.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dorsai! wrote:
The Tooltips Feature only works when nepomuk is installed and started.
Maybe you also have to set "semantic-desktop" USE-Flag first.

Interesting. I tested it on a laptop with USE="-semantic-desktop" and it showed the behaviour the OP described (busy-cursor and no tooltip). Then I disabled nepomuk on my workstation - and I do get Tooltips in dolphin. It does not show special Metadata, but general data such as Mime Type, last edited and size.
So I think this is a bug. -semantic-desktop should have a working tooltip.

If I have time this evening, I will have a look at it.
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, I have set -semantic-desktop, true. I really have no idea when I last used that feature, it has been more than a year for sure. Convinient was that it for example showed bitrate and length info for mp3 files. I think it was something like kde-multimedia-addons or the likes... Are you people sure that this functionality has been migrated into the indexing services? If so, I will happily skip :)
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 9:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't quote me on this, because I am not sure at all. But I foggily remember that feature from the kde 3.x days. And I remember, just like you, installing a package to get that.

If I am right and my memory serves (that would be much coincidence though :lol: ), this was much longer than one year ago (as I said, it was in kde 3.x). Anyway, what's relevant for this thread is that all this stuff have moved into the semantic desktop tagging mechanism (a.k.a. nepomuk). I have no idea if the old solution from the 3.x days was ever ported to 4.x. While technically possible, for most people it wouldn't make much sense, except for those of us who will never use that nepomuk monstrosity.
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, indeed... Maybe my memory serves me wrong too and this has been much more than a year... Time flies from a certain age :lol: And Nepomuk will *never* make it on my machine, been there, done that, facepalm...
EDIT: I wonder if staring at the compiler-output has something to do with this memory losses? Hmmm :)
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just in case, did you try installing the dolphin plugins package? Or maybe the multimedia kioslaves...?
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found out, that KIO::PreviewJob neither emits failed() nor gotPreview(), when kdelibs are built with -semantic-desktop, resulting in keeping Cursor in dolphin spinning. So probably a bug in kdelibs. I will see, if I can find the source.

BTW.: Is your problem the missing ToolTip, or do you really want all those extra-infos like length, bitrate, ... of the videos? Because those are not shown, if nepomuk is installed but turned off.
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Multimedia-kioslaves are installed, no change with dolphin plugins... Cursor is still idling.
I don't care for video files, but that plugin also gave preview for images and some useful stuff for mp3s.
Not so important, I have this issue for ages and just overcame my lazyness to ask :)
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that I want to init an fm war here but note thatm mc can do this since ancient times (press f3). :lol:
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hehehe! How could I forget that? It even embeds tightly into KDE thanks to Konsole... Problem solved :)
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I reported this bug some time ago: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=401183 and it was closed as WORKSFORME. Since we seem to have a general idea for the source of the bug (-semantic-desktop) I'll try reopening it.

EDIT: found an upstream bug report: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=270842
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