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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:09 am    Post subject: Other way? Reply with quote

Hey folks, This is my first post in gentoo forums, I`m wonering if there is any Other way to install gentoo? Like the live dvd?

Tried installing gento following the hand book, and get as far as comile the kernel, but this faild twice :S
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greetings! In short no, you are the installer.
Try genkernel and worry about making a custom kernel latter. That will also resolve any problems about a separate /usr and /var might be causing.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

penguin swordmaster wrote:
Greetings! In short no, you are the installer.
Try genkernel and worry about making a custom kernel latter. That will also resolve any problems about a separate /usr and /var might be causing.


I used genkernel when i compiled the kernel.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mind33 wrote:
penguin swordmaster wrote:
Greetings! In short no, you are the installer.
Try genkernel and worry about making a custom kernel latter. That will also resolve any problems about a separate /usr and /var might be causing.


I used genkernel when i compiled the kernel.



I like Manual configuration , huhuhu
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mind33 wrote:

Tried installing gento following the hand book, and get as far as comile the kernel, but this faild twice :S

you could supply us the error message you get, when trying to merge your kernel. so we could help you find out, why the compilation doesn't work.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 10:08 am    Post subject: Re: Other way? Reply with quote

mind33 wrote:
Hey folks, This is my first post in gentoo forums, I`m wonering if there is any Other way to install gentoo? Like the live dvd?

Tried installing gento following the hand book, and get as far as comile the kernel, but this faild twice :S



I guess you forget choose file system or your cpu option , You can review it.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 10:34 am    Post subject: Re: Other way? Reply with quote

mind33 wrote:
Hey folks, This is my first post in gentoo forums, I`m wonering if there is any Other way to install gentoo? Like the live dvd?

Tried installing gento following the hand book, and get as far as comile the kernel, but this faild twice :S
Our crystal balls are all broken (might be a compilation problem). As such, to help you, we need detailed error messages and an exact description of where you were in the install when you experienced this "failure". :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Other way? Reply with quote

John R. Graham wrote:
mind33 wrote:
Hey folks, This is my first post in gentoo forums, I`m wonering if there is any Other way to install gentoo? Like the live dvd?

Tried installing gento following the hand book, and get as far as comile the kernel, but this faild twice :S
Our crystal balls are all broken (might be a compilation problem). As such, to help you, we need detailed error messages and an exact description of where you were in the install when you experienced this "failure". :wink:

- John


Since Genkernel.log is so big i post only parts of it that i think is important.


Code:
Trying libraries: crypt m
Failed: -Wl,--start-group -lcrypt -lm -Wl,--end-group
Output of:
gcc -Wall -Wshadow -Wwrite-strings -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wunused -Wunused-parameter -Wunused-function -Wunused-value -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wold-style-definition -fno-builtin-strlen -finline-limit=0 -fomit-frame-pointer -ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -fno-guess-branch-probability -funsigned-char -static-libgcc -falign-functions=1 -falign-jumps=1 -falign-labels=1 -falign-loops=1 -Os -march=i386 -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -static -o busybox_unstripped -Wl,--sort-common -Wl,--sort-section,alignment -Wl,--start-group applets/built-in.o archival/lib.a archival/libarchive/lib.a console-tools/lib.a coreutils/lib.a coreutils/libcoreutils/lib.a debianutils/lib.a e2fsprogs/lib.a editors/lib.a findutils/lib.a init/lib.a libbb/lib.a libpwdgrp/lib.a loginutils/lib.a mailutils/lib.a miscutils/lib.a modutils/lib.a networking/lib.a networking/libiproute/lib.a networking/udhcp/lib.a printutils/lib.a procps/lib.a runit/lib.a selinux/lib.a shell/lib.a sysklogd/lib.a util-linux/lib.a util-linux/volume_id/lib.a archival/built-in.o archival/libarchive/built-in.o console-tools/built-in.o coreutils/built-in.o coreutils/libcoreutils/built-in.o debianutils/built-in.o e2fsprogs/built-in.o editors/built-in.o findutils/built-in.o init/built-in.o libbb/built-in.o libpwdgrp/built-in.o loginutils/built-in.o mailutils/built-in.o miscutils/built-in.o modutils/built-in.o networking/built-in.o networking/libiproute/built-in.o networking/udhcp/built-in.o printutils/built-in.o procps/built-in.o runit/built-in.o selinux/built-in.o shell/built-in.o sysklogd/built-in.o util-linux/built-in.o util-linux/volume_id/built-in.o -Wl,--end-group -Wl,--start-group -lcrypt -lm -Wl,--end-group
==========
coreutils/lib.a(id.o): In function `get_groups':
id.c:(.text.get_groups+0xe): warning: Using 'getgrouplist' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking
libbb/lib.a(bb_pwd.o): In function `xgetgrgid':
bb_pwd.c:(.text.xgetgrgid+0x5): warning: Using 'getgrgid' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking
archival/libarchive/lib.a(data_extract_all.o): In function `data_extract_all':
data_extract_all.c:(.text.data_extract_all+0x2c4): warning: Using 'getgrnam' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking
shell/lib.a(ash.o): In function `argstr':
ash.c:(.text.argstr+0xe4): warning: Using 'getpwnam' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking
libbb/lib.a(bb_pwd.o): In function `xgetpwuid':
bb_pwd.c:(.text.xgetpwuid+0x5): warning: Using 'getpwuid' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking
libbb/lib.a(xconnect.o): In function `str2sockaddr':
xconnect.c:(.text.str2sockaddr+0xeb): warning: Using 'getaddrinfo' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking
libbb/lib.a(inet_common.o): In function `INET_rresolve':
inet_common.c:(.text.INET_rresolve+0xb5): warning: Using 'gethostbyaddr' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking
util-linux/lib.a(mount.o): In function `nfsmount':
mount.c:(.text.nfsmount+0xbc): warning: Using 'gethostbyname' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking
libbb/lib.a(xconnect.o): In function `bb_lookup_port':
xconnect.c:(.text.bb_lookup_port+0x3b): warning: Using 'getservbyname' in statically linked applications requires at runtime the shared libraries from the glibc version used for linking
util-linux/lib.a(mount.o): In function `xdr_fhstatus':
mount.c:(.text.xdr_fhstatus+0xd): undefined reference to `xdr_u_int'
mount.c:(.text.xdr_fhstatus+0x2a): undefined reference to `xdr_opaque'
util-linux/lib.a(mount.o): In function `xdr_dirpath':
mount.c:(.text.xdr_dirpath+0xe): undefined reference to `xdr_string'
util-linux/lib.a(mount.o): In function `xdr_mountres3':
mount.c:(.text.xdr_mountres3+0xd): undefined reference to `xdr_enum'
mount.c:(.text.xdr_mountres3+0x2e): undefined reference to `xdr_bytes'
mount.c:(.text.xdr_mountres3+0x3e): undefined reference to `xdr_int'
mount.c:(.text.xdr_mountres3+0x50): undefined reference to `xdr_array'
util-linux/lib.a(mount.o): In function `nfsmount':
mount.c:(.text.nfsmount+0x773): undefined reference to `pmap_getmaps'
mount.c:(.text.nfsmount+0x88a): undefined reference to `clntudp_create'
mount.c:(.text.nfsmount+0x8c1): undefined reference to `clnttcp_create'
mount.c:(.text.nfsmount+0x8ea): undefined reference to `clnt_spcreateerror'
mount.c:(.text.nfsmount+0x8fa): undefined reference to `authunix_create_default'
mount.c:(.text.nfsmount+0x96f): undefined reference to `clnt_sperror'
mount.c:(.text.nfsmount+0x994): undefined reference to `clnt_sperror'
mount.c:(.text.nfsmount+0xb19): undefined reference to `bindresvport'
mount.c:(.text.nfsmount+0xb63): undefined reference to `pmap_getport'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [busybox_unstripped] Error 1
* Gentoo Linux Genkernel; Version 3.4.20
* Running with options: --menuconfig all

* ERROR: Failed to compile the "all" target...
* -- Grepping log... --
* -- End log... --
* Please consult /var/log/genkernel.log for more information and any
* errors that were reported above.
* Report any genkernel bugs to bugs.gentoo.org and
* assign your bug to genkernel@gentoo.org. Please include
* as much information as you can in your bug report; attaching
* /var/log/genkernel.log so that your issue can be dealt with effectively.
*
* Please do *not* report compilation failures as genkernel bugs!


mod edit by i92guboj: added code tags, please, use them, they greatly improve the readability because of the monospace fonts.
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PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if youre willing to go the manual kernel config route, have a gander at the links in my signature
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cach0rr0 wrote:
if youre willing to go the manual kernel config route, have a gander at the links in my signature


I dont think manuel config is the thing for me yet. :?

Is there anyone that can se way genkrnel failed?
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, then. Some more questions.
  • What install CD did you use?
  • Could you post the output of
    Code:
    emerge --info
    please?
  • Could you post the output of
    Code:
    cat /proc/cpuinfo
    please?
This is assuming that the system is stuill running and in the chroot. If not, let me know.

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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Other way? Reply with quote

mind33 wrote:
there is any Other way to install gentoo? Like the live dvd?

Code:
   1                          ******************************
   2                          *   Gentoo  Anaconda  port   *
   3                          ******************************
   4
   5                               Installing Anaconda
   6                      by wiktor w brodlo <wiktor@brodlo.net>
   7
   8 This file describes how to install Anaconda on a Gentoo system,  like the Gentoo
   9 LiveDVD. It does NOT describe how to install Gentoo using Anaconda.
  10
  11 First of all, you will need roughly 500 MB of space for all the dependencies and
  12 such. Anaconda depends on various libraries and other packages.
  13
  14 As root:
  15 1. cd /
  16 2. git clone git://git.overlays.gentoo.org/proj/anaconda-overlay.git
  17 3. Add /anaconda-overlay to your PORTDIR_OVERLAY
  18      NOTICE: The overlay MUST be in /anaconda-overlay.
  19 4. emerge anaconda --autounmask-write
  20 5. Update your configs (e.g. etc-update).
  21 6. emerge anaconda
  22 7. Go for a tea or something ;-)
  23 8. Enjoy.


http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-893892-highlight-.html
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I,m not chrooted now

But can this be whats wrong? :
Code:
Trying libraries: crypt m
Failed:  -WI, --start-group -lcrypt -lm -WI, --end-group

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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Other way? Reply with quote

botdotcom wrote:
mind33 wrote:
there is any Other way to install gentoo? Like the live dvd?

Code:
   1                          ******************************
   2                          *   Gentoo  Anaconda  port   *
   3                          ******************************
   4
   5                               Installing Anaconda
   6                      by wiktor w brodlo <wiktor@brodlo.net>
   7
   8 This file describes how to install Anaconda on a Gentoo system,  like the Gentoo
   9 LiveDVD. It does NOT describe how to install Gentoo using Anaconda.
  10
  11 First of all, you will need roughly 500 MB of space for all the dependencies and
  12 such. Anaconda depends on various libraries and other packages.
  13
  14 As root:
  15 1. cd /
  16 2. git clone git://git.overlays.gentoo.org/proj/anaconda-overlay.git
  17 3. Add /anaconda-overlay to your PORTDIR_OVERLAY
  18      NOTICE: The overlay MUST be in /anaconda-overlay.
  19 4. emerge anaconda --autounmask-write
  20 5. Update your configs (e.g. etc-update).
  21 6. emerge anaconda
  22 7. Go for a tea or something ;-)
  23 8. Enjoy.


http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-893892-highlight-.html


We don't support such installers ;)

@mind33 try a running with the ~arch version of genkernel.
Code:
# if [ ! -d /etc/portage ]; then mkdir /etc/portage;fi; echo "sys-kernel/genkernel">>/etc/portage/package.accept_keywords && emerge genkernel -1 && genkernel all
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mind33 wrote:
I,m not chrooted now
Follow NeddySeagoons' Rough Guide to Chrooting to get back into the chroot and then provide the information, please.

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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@likewhoa,
Don't waste your breath on botdotcom.
He's been pestering this forum for an installer because he can't stand/handle the command line.
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PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try one of pappy's seeds cachorro links to in his sig. It's really not that much of a challenge to get your own kernel up and running. Except the first one (which was done by a friend) I configured all my kernels myself - ok, and one with the help of a seed.
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John R. Graham wrote:
mind33 wrote:
I,m not chrooted now
Follow NeddySeagoons' Rough Guide to Chrooting to get back into the chroot and then provide the information, please.

- John


But I`m using minimal cd during install so its a bit tricky to copy the output :/

But another question, This is a dirty way i know, but can i use the kernel on livedvd? just so i can get gentoo installd, then i can try build my own kernel.?
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mind33 wrote:
John R. Graham wrote:
mind33 wrote:
I,m not chrooted now
Follow NeddySeagoons' Rough Guide to Chrooting to get back into the chroot and then provide the information, please.

- John


But I`m using minimal cd during install so its a bit tricky to copy the output :/

But another question, This is a dirty way i know, but can i use the kernel on livedvd? just so i can get gentoo installd, then i can try build my own kernel.?


I dont exactly know what you mean by dirty and / or "use the kernel on livedvd", but you should be able to boot the livedvd and then chroot from the livedvd into your gentoo system.
When you are in there, you can start compiling your kernel.
This is not dirty at all, I do it all the time :roll:

If I am not mistaken (and I am not an expert at all), the following commands should do this for you (run as root):
Code:

mkdir /mnt/gentoo
mount /dev/{your gentoo root partition} /mnt/gentoo
mkdir /mnt/gentoo/boot
mount /dev/{your gentoo boot partition} /mnt/gentoo/boot

mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc
mount --rbind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev

chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
env-update
source /etc/profile

cd /usr/src/linux
make menuconfig


This is all taken from the gentoo handbook, and doing it this exact way has done it for me countless times.

Good Luck
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

k_klunz wrote:
mind33 wrote:
John R. Graham wrote:
mind33 wrote:
I,m not chrooted now
Follow NeddySeagoons' Rough Guide to Chrooting to get back into the chroot and then provide the information, please.

- John


But I`m using minimal cd during install so its a bit tricky to copy the output :/

But another question, This is a dirty way i know, but can i use the kernel on livedvd? just so i can get gentoo installd, then i can try build my own kernel.?


I dont exactly know what you mean by dirty and / or "use the kernel on livedvd", but you should be able to boot the livedvd and then chroot from the livedvd into your gentoo system.
When you are in there, you can start compiling your kernel.
This is not dirty at all, I do it all the time :roll:

If I am not mistaken (and I am not an expert at all), the following commands should do this for you (run as root):
Code:

mkdir /mnt/gentoo
mount /dev/{your gentoo root partition} /mnt/gentoo
mkdir /mnt/gentoo/boot
mount /dev/{your gentoo boot partition} /mnt/gentoo/boot

mount -t proc none /mnt/gentoo/proc
mount --rbind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev

chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
env-update
source /etc/profile

cd /usr/src/linux
make menuconfig


This is all taken from the gentoo handbook, and doing it this exact way has done it for me countless times.

Good Luck
tobe


What i ment was if i can copy the kernel on the live dvd over to my gentoo install and use this as my first kernel?
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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not recommended. Here's the solution to your other problems:
  • Get back into the chroot per previous instructions.
  • Install wgetpaste
    Code:
    emerge -v wgetpaste
    which will paste log files and such to the web easily.
  • Then provide the requested information. For instance
    Code:
    emerge --info | wgetpaste
    and then just write down the reported URL and post it here.
While you're at it, could you post the name of the stage3 tarball you used and the output of
Code:
gcc-config -l
please?

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PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John R. Graham wrote:
Not recommended. Here's the solution to your other problems:
  • Get back into the chroot per previous instructions.
  • Install wgetpaste
    Code:
    emerge -v wgetpaste
    which will paste log files and such to the web easily.
  • Then provide the requested information. For instance
    Code:
    emerge --info | wgetpaste
    and then just write down the reported URL and post it here.
While you're at it, could you post the name of the stage3 tarball you used and the output of
Code:
gcc-config -l
please?

- John


Here is teh output : https://gist.github.com/2653704

The output of gcc-config
Code:
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.5.3



Stage3-i686-20120501.tat.bz2
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After tryin manuel config of kernel i`m giving up.. :?
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mind33, I think I have a solution to your issue. If you're still willing to try, write back and we can continue.

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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But I`m using minimal cd during install so its a bit tricky to copy the output :/


This is a good way to install, will teach you much.
Why not try another cd to do the install, any linux cd will work for installing gentoo. I like the system rescue cd, is handy to have around for other needs.
Many reasons to use a alternative cd for installation, sometimes for wireless drivers, but the bonus is you get firefox to read the manual and come here and ask questions and can post answers.

lets say you use a ubuntu cd, when you get to the part in the handbook where it says /mnt/gentoo, it will complain that /mnt/gentoo does not exist.

mkdir /mnt/gentoo

done, just follow the handbook as normal, system rescue is gentoo based and will not run into this. At this point, instead of giving up, just boot another cd and chroot back into your install and get er done :D
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