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dE_logics
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 Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:58 am Post subject: iPhone sales doubles -- proof of more stupid people. |
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No wonder world's IQ is decreasing.
The sales just doubled and god knows why.
With Android around, there's no reason to get an iPhone... and as we all know, everything what Microsoft says is FUD and a complete lie... so forget Lumia and Omia crap and the associated bribed reviews.
You can't expand memory in iPhone, there's no mass storage mode, there's no value for money.
You can get a decent Android phone for half the price with just 1/5th less apps. And it does everything that iPhone does.
No wonder people are stupid... anyone who buys an iPhone IS stupid.
BUT -- one also needs to see that everyone's not an IT pro, very less understand technology, 90% even don't know what's binary and what's source. When they buy an Apple, they want the best around... that's why they buy it. The reason for not opting an Android phone is cause there're too many choices, too much competition, too much confusion. As a result, they go for iCrap.
e.g. one of my friend who happens to be a stupid Apple fan says Apple hardware is better than Intel.
Actually, there's no reason to buy anything Apple except the Mac... that too to get an OS which actually works.
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Hmm, I prefer my phone that requires only one thumb to use and a battery that lasts for over 2 days without a charge. Also, the 4S was $200 w/contract and a comparable Android phone costs just as much. I still haven't mentioned camera quality, cloud storage decreasing the importance of phone memory, iMessages not using text messages...
I agree the initial iPhones were terrible and thought I would never own one, but if you haven't used one since the original or the 3G version, you have no idea what the iPhone is anymore. |
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Interesting. Verizon recently reported a slow-down in sales / registration / whatever of the iPhone.
I wonder if the increase is related to Sprint's bonehead purchase. Sales of theirs 1/2 of what they paid.
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| rtomek wrote: | Hmm, I prefer my phone that requires only one thumb to use and a battery that lasts for over 2 days without a charge. Also, the 4S was $200 w/contract and a comparable Android phone costs just as much. I still haven't mentioned camera quality, cloud storage decreasing the importance of phone memory, iMessages not using text messages...
I agree the initial iPhones were terrible and thought I would never own one, but if you haven't used one since the original or the 3G version, you have no idea what the iPhone is anymore. |
You can use android with 1 thumb.
So you tend to thing, as compared to android counterparts, iphone has value for money.
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| I am not trying to offend you dE_logics. But the iPhone is not a "IT pro" phone. This phone is for the average user. The average user is pretty damn stupid. If you don't understand why they sell so much then you might be pretty stupid too, lol. Also the iPhone is a great tool if you want everything to be done out of box. Android is a great hobbiest phone. Though the android is too fragmented is my biggest issue with my phone. |
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| dE_logics wrote: | | rtomek wrote: | Hmm, I prefer my phone that requires only one thumb to use and a battery that lasts for over 2 days without a charge. Also, the 4S was $200 w/contract and a comparable Android phone costs just as much. I still haven't mentioned camera quality, cloud storage decreasing the importance of phone memory, iMessages not using text messages...
I agree the initial iPhones were terrible and thought I would never own one, but if you haven't used one since the original or the 3G version, you have no idea what the iPhone is anymore. |
You can use android with 1 thumb.
So you tend to thing, as compared to android counterparts, iphone has value for money. |
You use gmail tap?
https://mail.google.com/mail/help/promos/tap/index.html |
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| ak47gen wrote: | | dE_logics wrote: | | rtomek wrote: | Hmm, I prefer my phone that requires only one thumb to use and a battery that lasts for over 2 days without a charge. Also, the 4S was $200 w/contract and a comparable Android phone costs just as much. I still haven't mentioned camera quality, cloud storage decreasing the importance of phone memory, iMessages not using text messages...
I agree the initial iPhones were terrible and thought I would never own one, but if you haven't used one since the original or the 3G version, you have no idea what the iPhone is anymore. |
You can use android with 1 thumb.
So you tend to thing, as compared to android counterparts, iphone has value for money. |
You use gmail tap?
https://mail.google.com/mail/help/promos/tap/index.html |
Ahhh, great app 
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| ak47gen wrote: | | Android is a great hobbiest phone. Though the android is too fragmented is my biggest issue with my phone. |
So says the guy on a Linux forum. I figured fragmentation would be a non-issue. |
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| ak47gen wrote: | | I am not trying to offend you dE_logics. But the iPhone is not a "IT pro" phone. This phone is for the average user. The average user is pretty damn stupid. If you don't understand why they sell so much then you might be pretty stupid too, lol. Also the iPhone is a great tool if you want everything to be done out of box. Android is a great hobbiest phone. Though the android is too fragmented is my biggest issue with my phone. |
the reason they sell so many phones is called 'hype'. Just like the ipod - it really was not special, but Apple has a pretty good marketing department.
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No hype. Just a better product.
When you're paying for something, you're paying for the whole deal. Not just software.
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When I'm paying for something, I expect to use it how I choose.
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The the OP: you don't understand what the general population want in phones. Apple does and are selling them like crazy.
Although, if something ever happens (like the phone getting hacked) people will be oblivious as far as security measures go. This is happening right now with the Mac virus out there. Most Mac users have the nothing-can-screw-up-my-computer attitude and it's going to burn them bad. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:42 pm Post subject: |
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| dE_logics wrote: | | rtomek wrote: | Hmm, I prefer my phone that requires only one thumb to use and a battery that lasts for over 2 days without a charge. Also, the 4S was $200 w/contract and a comparable Android phone costs just as much. I still haven't mentioned camera quality, cloud storage decreasing the importance of phone memory, iMessages not using text messages...
I agree the initial iPhones were terrible and thought I would never own one, but if you haven't used one since the original or the 3G version, you have no idea what the iPhone is anymore. |
You can use android with 1 thumb.
So you tend to thing, as compared to android counterparts, iphone has value for money. |
I consider resale value to be value, and that is definitely better with an iPhone 
I also consider my time valuable. That's the biggest thing about the iPhone that I like, I use one or two less thumb taps to get where I want to be compared to Android (why should I have to press a button to get to my list of apps?). Although it only saves a few seconds each time, it's at the most important time since that's when I'm actually using it, the design is really nice and I can get my stuff done much faster. I like that I didn't have to install a custom kernel and radio module to get my better battery life and signal strength, it's already great. IMO, the iPhone is an IT person's phone just as much as anyone because it lets you spend more time getting work done on your PC instead of wasting time making your phone slightly better.... it's a freaking phone, I'm the only user and I plan on replacing it in less than 2 years after purchase. Now, if it was powerful enough that I could replace my i7 PC after hooking it up to TV/Monitors, then I might think it's worth investing time setting it up.
edit: Now, I do agree that an iPhone isn't for everyone, which is exactly why Android has such a big market share. I'm just saying that there is a lot of value in that extra expense that even 'IT people' can find. It's not just a phone for dummies and mac fanboys... Oh wait, the fanboys group is already a subset of the dummies group |
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| rtomek wrote: | | I also consider my time valuable. That's the biggest thing about the iPhone that I like, I use one or two less thumb taps to get where I want to be compared to Android (why should I have to press a button to get to my list of apps?). |
I don't know what android phone you had, but mine isn't like that. I can't remember the last time I looked in the Applications menu. It has a home screen like pretty much every other smartphone out there, but if you want to, it's much easier to move items and pages around to organize it how you like.
| rtomek wrote: | | IMO, the iPhone is an IT person's phone just as much as anyone because it lets you spend more time getting work done on your PC |
Not in my case. Because I had the iPhone which was locked to Safari's shitty browser I couldn't admin various equipment without having to lug a laptop around. =fail. I did install firefox (not the skin like on the iPhone) to use with those devices so I don't have to lug around my laptop.
The other thing that annoyed me on the iPhone was the inability to install your own mail app. While for basic mail and calendaring was fine, for me it wasn't enough, I needed to be able to do full scheduling and invitations and the like and the iPhone couldn't do it. I know that the 4/4S both have slightly better scheduling but it isn't there yet. That plus the multiple calendar issue. That might've been fixed in the 4/4S.
I won't even look at another iPhone until they allow other browsers and email apps. |
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| ak47gen wrote: | | I am not trying to offend you dE_logics. But the iPhone is not a "IT pro" phone. This phone is for the average user. The average user is pretty damn stupid. If you don't understand why they sell so much then you might be pretty stupid too, lol. Also the iPhone is a great tool if you want everything to be done out of box. Android is a great hobbiest phone. Though the android is too fragmented is my biggest issue with my phone. |
What proves your stupidity is this -
| Quote: | | BUT -- one also needs to see that everyone's not an IT pro, very less understand technology, 90% even don't know what's binary and what's source. When they buy an Apple, they want the best around... that's why they buy it. The reason for not opting an Android phone is cause there're too many choices, too much competition, too much confusion. As a result, they go for iCrap. |
BTW there're very less geeks and technologists around the world, Android is not used only by them, but at least 95% of the sales comes from the 'common people'... otherwise it would not have been sold at all. And it does work out of the box, is productive.
A true geeks phone is the N9.
| ak47gen wrote: | | dE_logics wrote: | | rtomek wrote: | Hmm, I prefer my phone that requires only one thumb to use and a battery that lasts for over 2 days without a charge. Also, the 4S was $200 w/contract and a comparable Android phone costs just as much. I still haven't mentioned camera quality, cloud storage decreasing the importance of phone memory, iMessages not using text messages...
I agree the initial iPhones were terrible and thought I would never own one, but if you haven't used one since the original or the 3G version, you have no idea what the iPhone is anymore. |
You can use android with 1 thumb.
So you tend to thing, as compared to android counterparts, iphone has value for money. |
You use gmail tap?
https://mail.google.com/mail/help/promos/tap/index.html |
Wait -- WHAT...? YOU GUYS USE IT??!!
| danomac wrote: | The the OP: you don't understand what the general population want in phones. Apple does and are selling them like crazy.
Although, if something ever happens (like the phone getting hacked) people will be oblivious as far as security measures go. This is happening right now with the Mac virus out there. Most Mac users have the nothing-can-screw-up-my-computer attitude and it's going to burn them bad. |
But it's often the mac user's fault.
What I think that iPhone has is the Apple. It's not about what people want, it's about what people don't know. The don't know that Android has value for money... they just want to trade in for the best and they think Apple is the best (but IT pros know it's not).
| rtomek wrote: | | dE_logics wrote: | | rtomek wrote: | Hmm, I prefer my phone that requires only one thumb to use and a battery that lasts for over 2 days without a charge. Also, the 4S was $200 w/contract and a comparable Android phone costs just as much. I still haven't mentioned camera quality, cloud storage decreasing the importance of phone memory, iMessages not using text messages...
I agree the initial iPhones were terrible and thought I would never own one, but if you haven't used one since the original or the 3G version, you have no idea what the iPhone is anymore. |
You can use android with 1 thumb.
So you tend to thing, as compared to android counterparts, iphone has value for money. |
I consider resale value to be value, and that is definitely better with an iPhone
I also consider my time valuable. That's the biggest thing about the iPhone that I like, I use one or two less thumb taps to get where I want to be compared to Android (why should I have to press a button to get to my list of apps?). Although it only saves a few seconds each time, it's at the most important time since that's when I'm actually using it, the design is really nice and I can get my stuff done much faster. I like that I didn't have to install a custom kernel and radio module to get my better battery life and signal strength, it's already great. IMO, the iPhone is an IT person's phone just as much as anyone because it lets you spend more time getting work done on your PC instead of wasting time making your phone slightly better.... it's a freaking phone, I'm the only user and I plan on replacing it in less than 2 years after purchase. Now, if it was powerful enough that I could replace my i7 PC after hooking it up to TV/Monitors, then I might think it's worth investing time setting it up.
edit: Now, I do agree that an iPhone isn't for everyone, which is exactly why Android has such a big market share. I'm just saying that there is a lot of value in that extra expense that even 'IT people' can find. It's not just a phone for dummies and mac fanboys... Oh wait, the fanboys group is already a subset of the dummies group |
So, UI is what you like.
Also notice -- people tweak Android cause it can be tweaked, not because they really want the battery life.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/best-battery-life-longest-lasting-smart-phones
Apple is 6th.
| danomac wrote: | | rtomek wrote: | | I also consider my time valuable. That's the biggest thing about the iPhone that I like, I use one or two less thumb taps to get where I want to be compared to Android (why should I have to press a button to get to my list of apps?). |
I don't know what android phone you had, but mine isn't like that. I can't remember the last time I looked in the Applications menu. It has a home screen like pretty much every other smartphone out there, but if you want to, it's much easier to move items and pages around to organize it how you like.
| rtomek wrote: | | IMO, the iPhone is an IT person's phone just as much as anyone because it lets you spend more time getting work done on your PC |
Not in my case. Because I had the iPhone which was locked to Safari's shitty browser I couldn't admin various equipment without having to lug a laptop around. =fail. I did install firefox (not the skin like on the iPhone) to use with those devices so I don't have to lug around my laptop.
The other thing that annoyed me on the iPhone was the inability to install your own mail app. While for basic mail and calendaring was fine, for me it wasn't enough, I needed to be able to do full scheduling and invitations and the like and the iPhone couldn't do it. I know that the 4/4S both have slightly better scheduling but it isn't there yet. That plus the multiple calendar issue. That might've been fixed in the 4/4S.
I won't even look at another iPhone until they allow other browsers and email apps. |
You're the kind of guy who has unique IT pro like requirements... I disagree with rtomek's statement that an iPhone is OK for IT pros (well, for MS IT pros -- it's ok, in that case Lumia is the best). It has a lot of deficiencies which, unfortunately, 95% people don't care about.
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Also notice -- people tweak Android cause it can be tweaked, not because they really want the battery life.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/best-battery-life-longest-lasting-smart-phones
Apple is 6th.
| danomac wrote: | | rtomek wrote: | | I also consider my time valuable. That's the biggest thing about the iPhone that I like, I use one or two less thumb taps to get where I want to be compared to Android (why should I have to press a button to get to my list of apps?). |
I don't know what android phone you had, but mine isn't like that. I can't remember the last time I looked in the Applications menu. It has a home screen like pretty much every other smartphone out there, but if you want to, it's much easier to move items and pages around to organize it how you like.
| rtomek wrote: | | IMO, the iPhone is an IT person's phone just as much as anyone because it lets you spend more time getting work done on your PC |
Not in my case. Because I had the iPhone which was locked to Safari's shitty browser I couldn't admin various equipment without having to lug a laptop around. =fail. I did install firefox (not the skin like on the iPhone) to use with those devices so I don't have to lug around my laptop.
The other thing that annoyed me on the iPhone was the inability to install your own mail app. While for basic mail and calendaring was fine, for me it wasn't enough, I needed to be able to do full scheduling and invitations and the like and the iPhone couldn't do it. I know that the 4/4S both have slightly better scheduling but it isn't there yet. That plus the multiple calendar issue. That might've been fixed in the 4/4S.
I won't even look at another iPhone until they allow other browsers and email apps. |
You're the kind of guy who has unique IT pro like requirements... I disagree with rtomek's statement that an iPhone is OK for IT pros (well, for MS IT pros -- it's ok, in that case Lumia is the best). It has a lot of deficiencies which, unfortunately, 95% people don't care about.
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I have Opera on my iPhone, there's also Mercury, Dolphin and many others which aren't using webview. My iPhone syncs with my gmail calendar, when I create an event there is an option to select which calendar I want to add it to (and add invitees). Like I mentioned in my first post, I hated the iPhone for a long time but the 4s (or maybe it's ios 5) has everything I need, and as de_Logics said the deficiencies which still exist are something that 95+% of people don't care about. I think you just helped explain why their sales doubled.
6 is good, and is the only phone from that list on Sprint. |
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I have Opera on my iPhone, there's also Mercury, Dolphin and many others which aren't using webview. My iPhone syncs with my gmail calendar, when I create an event there is an option to select which calendar I want to add it to (and add invitees). Like I mentioned in my first post, I hated the iPhone for a long time but the 4s (or maybe it's ios 5) has everything I need, and as de_Logics said the deficiencies which still exist are something that 95+% of people don't care about. I think you just helped explain why their sales doubled. |
I'd already abandoned the iPhone before Opera mini was out. For some reason a lot of the web interfaces only work properly with firefox. IE or Safari doesn't work. I've never used Opera and don't plan to anytime soon. I'm not buying a phone to find out it still won't work.
I said in my post Apple is providing what the general population wants. I was specifically commenting on the "it's good for IT pros too" part, 'cause it ain't. 
FYI, I use these features in my Android Exchange client frequently:
-Setting recurrence on appointments
-Setting reminder, privacy options
-Setting appointments as tentative
-Categorizing appointments by office location
-Task management (I think the iPhone does limited task management now)
-Searching all email messages/appointments on the server for keywords and reporting results (not just the last 2 weeks or month of mail)
-Changing things like signatures, out of office messages and other alerts
When I had the iPhone, it couldn't do any of that. |
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| rtomek wrote: | | dE_logics wrote: |
Also notice -- people tweak Android cause it can be tweaked, not because they really want the battery life.
http://blog.laptopmag.com/best-battery-life-longest-lasting-smart-phones
Apple is 6th.
| danomac wrote: | | rtomek wrote: | | I also consider my time valuable. That's the biggest thing about the iPhone that I like, I use one or two less thumb taps to get where I want to be compared to Android (why should I have to press a button to get to my list of apps?). |
I don't know what android phone you had, but mine isn't like that. I can't remember the last time I looked in the Applications menu. It has a home screen like pretty much every other smartphone out there, but if you want to, it's much easier to move items and pages around to organize it how you like.
| rtomek wrote: | | IMO, the iPhone is an IT person's phone just as much as anyone because it lets you spend more time getting work done on your PC |
Not in my case. Because I had the iPhone which was locked to Safari's shitty browser I couldn't admin various equipment without having to lug a laptop around. =fail. I did install firefox (not the skin like on the iPhone) to use with those devices so I don't have to lug around my laptop.
The other thing that annoyed me on the iPhone was the inability to install your own mail app. While for basic mail and calendaring was fine, for me it wasn't enough, I needed to be able to do full scheduling and invitations and the like and the iPhone couldn't do it. I know that the 4/4S both have slightly better scheduling but it isn't there yet. That plus the multiple calendar issue. That might've been fixed in the 4/4S.
I won't even look at another iPhone until they allow other browsers and email apps. |
You're the kind of guy who has unique IT pro like requirements... I disagree with rtomek's statement that an iPhone is OK for IT pros (well, for MS IT pros -- it's ok, in that case Lumia is the best). It has a lot of deficiencies which, unfortunately, 95% people don't care about.
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I have Opera on my iPhone, there's also Mercury, Dolphin and many others which aren't using webview. My iPhone syncs with my gmail calendar, when I create an event there is an option to select which calendar I want to add it to (and add invitees). Like I mentioned in my first post, I hated the iPhone for a long time but the 4s (or maybe it's ios 5) has everything I need, and as de_Logics said the deficiencies which still exist are something that 95+% of people don't care about. I think you just helped explain why their sales doubled.
6 is good, and is the only phone from that list on Sprint. |
But I can do all that on Android too.
So far (according to you), there's just 1 reason to buy an iphone over android, and that's the UI. Which's actually a trival reason.
Also when you buy Android, you encourage open standards, with apple, it's just apple's profit and their monopoly.
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I'd already abandoned the iPhone before Opera mini was out. For some reason a lot of the web interfaces only work properly with firefox. IE or Safari doesn't work. I've never used Opera and don't plan to anytime soon. I'm not buying a phone to find out it still won't work.
I said in my post Apple is providing what the general population wants. I was specifically commenting on the "it's good for IT pros too" part, 'cause it ain't.
FYI, I use these features in my Android Exchange client frequently:
-Setting recurrence on appointments
-Setting reminder, privacy options
-Setting appointments as tentative
-Categorizing appointments by office location
-Task management (I think the iPhone does limited task management now)
-Searching all email messages/appointments on the server for keywords and reporting results (not just the last 2 weeks or month of mail)
-Changing things like signatures, out of office messages and other alerts
When I had the iPhone, it couldn't do any of that. |
Fair enough. When I used Android, I had to install a custom kernel and new radio in order to basic things like get good service and have a battery that lasted through the workday. I guess it's a good thing that there is a lot of competition and that both platforms are continuously updating their product.
There's also a lot of stuff Android doesn't do yet, either: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Exchange_ActiveSync_clients |
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dE_logics
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 9:11 am Post subject: |
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According to that article I pointed to, iphone ranked 6th to the android phones in terms of battery life.
That wiki article only talked about Windows phone clients, there're lots available for Android.
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Muso
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 9:14 am Post subject: |
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The iPhone fulfills many consumers' needs in a clean and efficient manner. They are not stupid for choosing the tech that is most comfortable for them.
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| As a bigot as I am, I voted "No" Cheerios everyone, it's friday here in svedala. The only logical thing to do then is drinkiing things containing spelling with a number followed with a per cent sign |
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rtomek
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| Posted: Fri May 04, 2012 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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| dE_logics wrote: | | According to that article I pointed to, iphone ranked 6th to the android phones in terms of battery life. |
No. It was #5, if you consider the Xperia Play in the same class. The #2 phone on that list beat it by 5 minutes, and that is about a 1% difference.
| dE_logics wrote: | | That wiki article only talked about Windows phone clients, there're lots available for Android. |
huh? |
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pitcrawler
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| rtomek wrote: | | Fair enough. When I used Android, I had to install a custom kernel and new radio in order to basic things like get good service and have a battery that lasted through the workday. |
The most important thing is: "Hey babe, look at my iPhone." is more likely to attract girls than. "I installed a custom kernel on my phone so now it's 4.1259% faster." |
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