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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:21 pm    Post subject: fluxbox CTRL ALT DEL crash Reply with quote

ok so this started happening on my desktop a while ago - and i ran through and updated my laptop and it has issues using CTRL ALT DEL to exit too but they are diff...

Desktop

in fluxbox CTRL ALT DEL - a screen will appear, usually white but sometimes grey or black, and i have to press the power button
(right click > menu > exit...everything exits fine to the login screen - gdm)


Laptop

in fluxbox...CTRL ALT DEL - usually takes a few seconds, and goes to what looks like an "the Xserver could not start" screen with no text but blue and grey boxes - have to CTRL ALT DEL again to restart - or power button


both run rox-filer and ati/amd video drivers

the desktop it happened a WHILE ago (the last time i rebuilt from scratch) and I flipped around xservers/fluxboxes/gdms, i couldn't get a combo to work...as far as i can tell in the fluxbox code, Menu>exit and CTRL_ALT_DEL, call the same thing. my fluxkeys aren't conflicting...

i've searched high and low, my laptop doing it is what made me so damn curious...i thought i had something installed on my desktop that was fubaring everything.

clearly seems like it is fluxbox, but there is 100% success everytime hitting menu>exit as oppose to 100% fail rate every time doing CTRL_ALT_DEL - and as i said, last time i checked the code called the same exit()

any info? help? need info? ty

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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 10:12 am    Post subject: Re: fluxbox CTRL ALT DEL crash Reply with quote

zlice wrote:
ok so this started happening on my desktop a while ago - and i ran through and updated my laptop and it has issues using CTRL ALT DEL to exit too but they are diff...

Desktop

in fluxbox CTRL ALT DEL - a screen will appear, usually white but sometimes grey or black, and i have to press the power button
(right click > menu > exit...everything exits fine to the login screen - gdm)


Laptop

in fluxbox...CTRL ALT DEL - usually takes a few seconds, and goes to what looks like an "the Xserver could not start" screen with no text but blue and grey boxes - have to CTRL ALT DEL again to restart - or power button



Well, this key combo, per-sé, has no meaning. So, either fluxbox parses it on its own and tries to invoke something to shut off the machine, or, you (or the default flux config, or whatever else) has defined a keybinding that calls something to do the job. That or any other secondary application is catching the binding (rox-filer?) and doing its thing.

So, the first thing we need to know is who's catching that event. Second, we need to know what tools is it calling as a reaction to that key combo. After we know that we can start investigating what is happening with that tool and why it doesn't work the way it should.

On a quick glance, I see that fluxbox doesn't seem to depend (at least not directly) into upower nor any other related tool. So I'd start looking into either rox-filer. Try to disable it and press the key combo, if nothing happens then you know that it's rox-filer which is handling it, and you should investigate that line.

If not, check the fluxbox configuration file, wherever they key combo is defined and see what is it calling.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well now that you mention it, i haven't checked other spots in fluxbox code to see if they (for some reason) integrated CTRL_ALT_DEL into a default exit and maybe the call is being duped? (i'll remove the fluxkeys CTRL_ALT_DEL and see what happens)

it's been a while to say - but i'm fairly sure i tried killing everything except fluxbox and seeing if that was a problem and still got the same error (roxfile, amd/ati, gkrellm, xscreensaver and numlockx are the only programs i had in startup) - i'll try messing around with those again



i'll try some of those later today and see what happens. ty
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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but - i also saw that when i kill X (either through display manager or just simple startx or Xorg) it crashes fglrx so i guess i can't really narrow it down enough with fglrx being full of holes and trying to figure out why my desktop has been doing this for a year or more and my laptop started doing it after updates...


if anyone has any ideas let me know - for now i guess i'll go back to the right click method...not exactly what i wanted but it works
:(


You could try to look into /var/log/emerge.log, and see if you can identify some update for fglrx, xorg or the kernel around the date when it started acting this way.

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only question i could have is this - is there a 'proper' or 'new' way that you are 'suppose' to run fluxbox/kde/xfce? (not through a display manager choice, maybe xinitrc or something?)


It shouldn't really matter. Some programs might want you to start the session using ck-launch-session, though. I am not sure of the current status of the things, regarding the consolekit support. But I don't think that's the case.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

woah - it says i posted an answer my own question...tripppyyyyy



anyway - i'll check on my laptop later and try to find something =/ i remember the laptop kernel i couldn't change to 3.2.12 because of a broadcom driver compile error (from their site, not the kernel). but i specifically didn't upgrade my laptop for a while because i didn't want this or other issues to come up.
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