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aidanjt
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OwnCloud > *
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| Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:42 am Post subject: |
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What-ever-works-that-makes-you-happy > *
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| John-Boy wrote: | one take on the TOS, is that they're needed to
build thumbnails of stuff you upload, move data around Google's various servers - so you can access and play stuff in public.
Without that, any of the above could be illegal.
I'm not going to start using this service myself, it seems that it would be suicide for Google to start exploiting drive as suggested. |
Facebook reportedly uses user content for advertisements. So I don't think it is unprecedented or unreasonable to consider. The TOS could also clearly indicate it is solely for the purpose of delivering your own data to yourself.
| wswartzendruber wrote: | | No, no, no. You're simply not getting it. Google is out to create a cloned army of cyclopic terrorbots bent on killing all of human kind. |
You don't think the name came up by chance from a focus group, do you? Cyborg was probably their first choice, but Android sounds less oppressive. Androids are generally helpful and submissive, while Cyborgs kill.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:21 am Post subject: |
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Linux problem solved
http://tomdignan.com/projects/gdrive-cli/
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| wswartzendruber wrote: | | pjp wrote: | | Naib wrote: | Only google state they have the right to use whatever you put on the drive.
not saying im not using it, just pointing out out of the 3 main providers they have a strange clause (the others still infer your ownership)
http://cdn.thenextweb.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2012/04/drive21-520x99.png
its one thing to "be an idiot" about privacy with a public service, its a completely different class of retard who doesn't at least educate themselves around what a service implies. |
Thanks. Do No Evil my ass. |
WWWAAAAAHHHHH!!! My pussy hurts!
They've been more open than everyone else about what their policy is.  |
what exactly is wrong with being informed and aware of such T&C. accepting or not accepting is one thing, realising others do it is another; but to just disregard any such T&C is a special kind of stupid. there is never anything wrong with furthering your knowledge - what you do with said knowledge definds you (but at least you ain't an idiot). I myself don't find the terms bad since I am using the drive to share files anyway.
what would be interesting is what if you attach the gpl to everything gdrive
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| Naib wrote: | | what would be interesting is what if you attach the gpl to everything gdrive |
Needs somebody to stick some source code on there and point out the contradiction.
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wswartzendruber
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| Naib wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | | pjp wrote: | | Naib wrote: | Only google state they have the right to use whatever you put on the drive.
not saying im not using it, just pointing out out of the 3 main providers they have a strange clause (the others still infer your ownership)
http://cdn.thenextweb.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2012/04/drive21-520x99.png
its one thing to "be an idiot" about privacy with a public service, its a completely different class of retard who doesn't at least educate themselves around what a service implies. |
Thanks. Do No Evil my ass. |
WWWAAAAAHHHHH!!! My pussy hurts!
They've been more open than everyone else about what their policy is. |
what exactly is wrong with being informed and aware of such T&C. accepting or not accepting is one thing, realising others do it is another; but to just disregard any such T&C is a special kind of stupid. there is never anything wrong with furthering your knowledge - what you do with said knowledge definds you (but at least you ain't an idiot). I myself don't find the terms bad since I am using the drive to share files anyway.
what would be interesting is what if you attach the gpl to everything gdrive |
I'm not accusing him of crying for reading the Terms and Conditions, I'm saying he's whiner for crying about them. I'm also saying he has a very liberal view of what evil is. |
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danomac
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After reading through it slower, it seems some of it is needed in order to work with your files. I don't like that it says "Our services" implying it can be used on whatever google comes up with in the future.
I signed up for it, I'm going to store some pdf manuals of stuff I've scanned on there. I'm not going to use it for anything personal. |
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pjp
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| wswartzendruber wrote: | | I'm not accusing him of crying for reading the Terms and Conditions, I'm saying he's whiner for crying about them. |
I wasn't crying about them, I was stating why I won't agree to them.
| wswartzendruber wrote: | | I'm also saying he has a very liberal view of what evil is. |
If it is a liberal view to not blindly accept and tolerate corporate abuse, then I thank you for the compliment.
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wswartzendruber
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| You said, "Don't be evil, my ass." That implies (to me) that Google is evil. How is Google evil here? |
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pjp
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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The TOS pretty much says thanks for your content, we'll do with it what we want. And in doing so, we may make it more convenient for you to access as well. It would be very easy to word it such that "we may modify it to provide your content to you alone" or something clearly limiting their use of it. Which seems absent. And because of that, I think it is "evil."
Put another way, prior to Google, did you have a positive opinion of the marketing and advertising industries, with particular respect to their interest in knowing "all" about you? I've never met anyone who did, so I would ask why is Google suddenly OK. Kind of like how Bush was bad for doing "it" but it's OK with Obama doing "it."
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danomac
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| Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | The TOS pretty much says thanks for your content, we'll do with it what we want. And in doing so, we may make it more convenient for you to access as well. It would be very easy to word it such that "we may modify it to provide your content to you alone" or something clearly limiting their use of it. Which seems absent. And because of that, I think it is "evil." |
All of them use almost identical wording. With the exception of Google saying "our services" as I mentioned in one of my other posts.
They're all evil. Pick your poison or abstain.  |
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