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notageek Tux's lil' helper


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Warning - Black Sabbath _________________ What looks like a cat, flies like a bat, brays like a donkey, and plays like a monkey? |
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:30 am Post subject: |
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America - Tin Man _________________ "Government is to society, what rape is to lovemaking" |
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Prenj n00b


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Muso l33t


Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Posts: 655 Location: The Holy city of Honolulu
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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:26 am Post subject: |
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My favorite jazz bass vamp of all time. G - C, F# - B, G# - E - B
Bitches Brew
Theme appears right about 2:50 into the piece. _________________ If I had a dollar for every time capitalism was blamed for the problems caused by government, I'd be a fat filmmaker with a baseball cap
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notageek Tux's lil' helper


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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:28 am Post subject: |
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Eternal Idol -- Black Sabbath. _________________ What looks like a cat, flies like a bat, brays like a donkey, and plays like a monkey? |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know who I thought that was, but didn't realize it was America.
I hear clicking, faint drums and what sounds like a sax. Up to that point though, it epitomizes the type of Jazz I can't do. Reminds me of beat poets. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
In Loving Memory
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Muso l33t


Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Posts: 655 Location: The Holy city of Honolulu
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | I hear clicking, faint drums and what sounds like a sax. Up to that point though, it epitomizes the type of Jazz I can't do. Reminds me of beat poets. |
The first two minutes and forty seconds is over a repeating C bass note, and is sort of a studio experiment... there's tape looping and cutting being used to provide echo, etc. From 2:50 the bass vamp (think riff) kicks in, all of the music is improvised on top of the vamp. For me, that G-C | F#-B | G#-E-B vamp just sounds... creepy, and slightly wicked. What is born on top of that is quite amazing, but it might take a few listening sessions to get into. _________________ If I had a dollar for every time capitalism was blamed for the problems caused by government, I'd be a fat filmmaker with a baseball cap |
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Muso l33t


Joined: 22 Oct 2002 Posts: 655 Location: The Holy city of Honolulu
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:08 am Post subject: |
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Still stuck on Bitches Brew. I've heard this album countless times, but I keep finding more inside the music to keep my attention fresh. My mother had the original vinyl back in the 70s, so I do remember hearing bits and pieces of the weirdness then. I picked up the CD back around '92 or so. Listened to it about once a year or so. But now, approaching 40, I'm hearing structure in it that had eluded me for years.
Here's the full album via YouTube. Turn down the lights, and open up :
Miles Davis - Bitches Brew [Full Album] _________________ If I had a dollar for every time capitalism was blamed for the problems caused by government, I'd be a fat filmmaker with a baseball cap |
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dmitchell Veteran


Joined: 17 May 2003 Posts: 1154 Location: Austin, Texas
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Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 9:08 am Post subject: |
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You just blew my mind. I am so into this. 8O _________________ Your argument is invalid. |
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Prenj n00b


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pjp Administrator


Joined: 16 Apr 2002 Posts: 16029 Location: Colorado
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:24 am Post subject: |
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| The Earth wrote: | | pjp wrote: | | I hear clicking, faint drums and what sounds like a sax. Up to that point though, it epitomizes the type of Jazz I can't do. Reminds me of beat poets. |
From 2:50 the bass vamp (think riff) kicks in, all of the music is improvised on top of the vamp. For me, that G-C | F#-B | G#-E-B vamp just sounds... creepy, and slightly wicked. What is born on top of that is quite amazing, but it might take a few listening sessions to get into. | Which instrument is the bass vamp? Like I mentioned, clicking (no idea what instrument that is), drums & sax are what I hear from 2:50ish until a bit after 3:00 when it picks up pace and gets louder.
Although I admit from that point on it is a bit better. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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Muso l33t


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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:36 am Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | The Earth wrote: | | pjp wrote: | | I hear clicking, faint drums and what sounds like a sax. Up to that point though, it epitomizes the type of Jazz I can't do. Reminds me of beat poets. |
From 2:50 the bass vamp (think riff) kicks in, all of the music is improvised on top of the vamp. For me, that G-C | F#-B | G#-E-B vamp just sounds... creepy, and slightly wicked. What is born on top of that is quite amazing, but it might take a few listening sessions to get into. | Which instrument is the bass vamp? |
The bass.
| pjp wrote: | Like I mentioned, clicking (no idea what instrument that is), drums & sax are what I hear from 2:50ish until a bit after 3:00 when it picks up pace and gets louder.
Although I admit from that point on it is a bit better. |
The clicking is miles snapping his fingers indicating rhythm. There's a bass clarinet playing low notes floating off of the bass vamp. The electric piano comes in as well.
If you aren't hearing the bass, I think there might be an issue with either your equalizer settings or your headphones.
Oh wait, try this link. I removed the &fmt=18, which might have had a negative result (instead of the usual increase in quality) for you. _________________ If I had a dollar for every time capitalism was blamed for the problems caused by government, I'd be a fat filmmaker with a baseball cap |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:21 am Post subject: |
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| The Earth wrote: | | If you aren't hearing the bass, I think there might be an issue with either your equalizer settings or your headphones. | Well, thanks for your trouble. Using my headphones actually helped. With the laptop speakers and a moderate volume, the bass sounded like some kind of hand-played bongo-like drum. Now that I've heard it properly with the headphones, I can more easily hear the vibration in the strings (when not using headphones).
I'll give it another listen tomorrow or this weekend when I have more time.
What does 'format=18' do? About the only difference I can hear between the two is more hiss without the 18. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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Muso l33t


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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | What does 'format=18' do? About the only difference I can hear between the two is more hiss without the 18. |
It's explained here. _________________ If I had a dollar for every time capitalism was blamed for the problems caused by government, I'd be a fat filmmaker with a baseball cap |
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Muso l33t


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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 6:43 am Post subject: |
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Ultimate Jam session. _________________ If I had a dollar for every time capitalism was blamed for the problems caused by government, I'd be a fat filmmaker with a baseball cap |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Nothing in the universe is worth seeing to have to put up with the crowd. Nothing. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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I like Rolling in the Deep, but not much else, unfortunately (at least from 21, haven't heard 19 yet). A shame since she has a good voice. And I honestly don't see why whatitsname won the Grammy.
Adele - 21 (2011) - Full Album
I guess Rolling in the Deep won for Song of the Year. I'd only heard about 'Someone Like You' winning (for best pop solo performance, whatever that is). _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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Muso l33t


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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:49 am Post subject: |
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In a Silent Way _________________ If I had a dollar for every time capitalism was blamed for the problems caused by government, I'd be a fat filmmaker with a baseball cap |
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Muso l33t


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Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 4:59 am Post subject: |
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Shhh~ _________________ If I had a dollar for every time capitalism was blamed for the problems caused by government, I'd be a fat filmmaker with a baseball cap |
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http://youtu.be/zeDqeWtUH9M KREATOR - Phantom Antichrist
they release killer after killer |
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