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This is such bullshit. We need to assess the ecological impacts this sort of thing may have on the asteroids!
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Another fine example of why this forum needs a facepalm emoticon.
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| aidanjt wrote: | | Another fine example of why this forum needs as facepalm emoticon. |
Why?
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Because we don't have the energy to be wasting on pie in the sky industrial space mining.
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Because we don't have the energy to be wasting on pie in the sky industrial space mining. |
This is a private sector venture. If they want to waste the money, it's on them. |
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| wswartzendruber wrote: | | This is a private sector venture. If they want to waste the money, it's on them. |
Where did I say money? I said energy. I know the Fed is printing a hell of a lot of it, but burning dollar bills don't get you into orbit.
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| aidanjt wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | | This is a private sector venture. If they want to waste the money, it's on them. |
Where did I say money? I said energy. |
Because rocket fuel is in such high demand.  |
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| wswartzendruber wrote: | | Because rocket fuel is in such high demand. |
The rocket fuel in question being liquid hydrogen, and guess how that's manufactured, burning gas, lots of it.
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| aidanjt wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | | Because rocket fuel is in such high demand. |
The rocket fuel in question being liquid hydrogen, and guess how that's manufactured, burning gas, lots of it. |
I am currently intoxicated, and therefore, cannot be held responsible for my statements. All blame for what I say is to hereby be shiften onto you.
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| wswartzendruber wrote: | I am currently intoxicated, and therefore, cannot be held responsible for my statements. All blame for what I say is to hereby be shiften onto you.
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| aidanjt wrote: | | Because we don't have the energy to be wasting on pie in the sky industrial space mining. |
I think that has yet to be determined. What energy are we in short enough supply that would impact THIS venture? Isn't the purpose of science to learn?
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| pjp wrote: | | aidanjt wrote: | | Because we don't have the energy to be wasting on pie in the sky industrial space mining. |
I think that has yet to be determined. What energy are we in short enough supply that would impact THIS venture? Isn't the purpose of science to learn? |
aidanjt says it involves a lot of fossil fuels. |
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| aidanjt wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | | Because rocket fuel is in such high demand. |
The rocket fuel in question being liquid hydrogen, and guess how that's manufactured, burning gas, lots of it. |
You don't 'need' gas to get hydrogen. You could use electrolysis.
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| aidanjt wrote: | | The rocket fuel in question being liquid hydrogen, and guess how that's manufactured, burning gas, lots of it. |
But all other rocket usage is OK, or should all use of rockets be banned?
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| pjp wrote: | | I think that has yet to be determined. What energy are we in short enough supply that would impact THIS venture? |
Gas, and other hydrocarbons.
| pjp wrote: | | Isn't the purpose of science to learn? |
Sure. But this isn't science, it's mining free-floating rocks.
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| The Earth wrote: | | You don't 'need' gas to get hydrogen. You could use electrolysis. |
Electrolysis is cool. But it also consumes a *lot* of electricity. Most of which is still generated by dead fossily things. Electrolysis is less efficient than simply burning gas, too.
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| aidanjt wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | | Because rocket fuel is in such high demand. |
The rocket fuel in question being liquid hydrogen, and guess how that's manufactured, burning gas, lots of it. |
SpaceX's Merlin engines burn kerosene.
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If you are interested in future space exploration strategy, This 45 minute video is very interesting, and is all about making or storing fuel at each new destination.
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| Old School wrote: | | aidanjt wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | | Because rocket fuel is in such high demand. |
The rocket fuel in question being liquid hydrogen, and guess how that's manufactured, burning gas, lots of it. |
SpaceX's Merlin engines burn kerosene. |
That's okay, we don't burn gasoline, we burn our dreams. |
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| richk449 wrote: | | Old School wrote: | | aidanjt wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | | Because rocket fuel is in such high demand. |
The rocket fuel in question being liquid hydrogen, and guess how that's manufactured, burning gas, lots of it. |
SpaceX's Merlin engines burn kerosene. |
That's okay, we don't burn gasoline, we burn our dreams. |
Damn your eyes, I listened to the whole thing.
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| Old School wrote: | | richk449 wrote: | | Old School wrote: | | aidanjt wrote: | | wswartzendruber wrote: | | Because rocket fuel is in such high demand. |
The rocket fuel in question being liquid hydrogen, and guess how that's manufactured, burning gas, lots of it. |
SpaceX's Merlin engines burn kerosene. |
That's okay, we don't burn gasoline, we burn our dreams. |
Damn your eyes, I listened to the whole thing. |
I love that song. Driving late at night, I roll the windows down, and blast it.
At least I didn't post a 45 minute educational video. What is this, a rain day? |
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Actually, it's been a beautiful day, sunny and mid 70's. Did a double header earlier. I've had that video bookmarked for a long time now. It is very interesting if you are interested in that stuff.
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| Old School wrote: | | Actually, it's been a beautiful day, sunny and mid 70's. Did a double header earlier. I've had that video bookmarked for a long time now. It is very interesting if you are interested in that stuff. |
Yea, it is gorgeous here too. Best day of the year so far. Maybe I will watch it tonight. |
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| aidanjt wrote: | | Sure. But this isn't science, it's mining free-floating rocks. |
And since it has never been done, surely we'll learn something in the process. And if it turns out to be economically feasible, wouldn't it be better to rape-mine asteroids than the earth?
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