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| BoneKracker wrote: | | At the moment, I think marijuana should be legalized, but I'm convinced that legalizing most of the others would not cause more harm than good. Yes, I'm aware that the current situation has its down side, but I think having a hundred fifty million cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine addicts would have its down side as well. |
You really think fully half the country would become drug addicts? That's crazy. So crazy, in fact, that I'm wondering if you might be on drugs!
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Hell has frozen over... Pat Buchanan actually makes sens |
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| mcgruff wrote: | | Niggers should be seen and not heard. |
wtf? You might want to seek help.
| mcgruff wrote: | | Hateful little shit. |
Yes you are.
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Interesting. mcgruff goes on a racist screed and then reports my post calling him out on it. 
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Where was I racist?
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| mcgruff wrote: | | Where was I racist? |
| mcgruff wrote: | Good niggers should be seen and not heard.
Wow. That's just unbelievable. Who knew there was a "real" (ie white) America.
No shit. Who's got all the money?
At last Batshit Buchanan stops complaining about uppity, criminal niggers and actually gets to the issue, although we quickly wish he hadn't bothered. It is a monstrous lie to make the incident sound like Zimmerman was acting in self-defence while being attacked by some giant, angry negro. I hope he ends up on death row. |
And then... you do this :
| mcgruff wrote: | | You tell me. You're the one who thinks it's OK to mow down black kids you don't like the look of. |
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| mcgruff wrote: | Niggers should be seen and not heard. And occasionally murdered without comment.
Hateful little shit. |
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mcgruff
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You need to lay off the spam for a bit. It's addled your brain.
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| mcgruff wrote: | | Where was I racist? |
At least you didn't deny being hateful. 
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| The Earth wrote: | | Interesting. mcgruff goes on a racist screed and then reports my post calling him out on it. |
because you misquoted him. Quote mining, out of context and then called him racist. New low for you today.
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| energyman76b wrote: | | The Earth wrote: | | Interesting. mcgruff goes on a racist screed and then reports my post calling him out on it. |
because you misquoted him. Quote mining, out of context and then called him racist. New low for you today. |
That is pretty funny, especially when one stops to consider that mcgruff accused chopinzee of thinking it was okay to "mow down black kids you don't like the look of."
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That is what Pat Buchanan is arguing for, and that's what Earth has presented to us as "good sense". Unless he was being ironic and I missed it. (Pssst: he's not being ironic).
Pat "Shit Crazy" Buchanan has attempted to portray black Americans as some kind of criminal class. He dismisses their complaints as some kind of hysterical, race war against the "real" America. He tries to excuse Zimmerman's actions.
It's one gold-plated fuck-up all the way from Zimmerman who pulled the trigger, the police who didn't bother to arrest him, to assholes like PB who refuse to deal with evident racial injustice. A classic example of the toxic combination of fear, stupidity and easily obtainable firearms. The first two are bad enough on their own but when you throw guns into the mix...
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:56 pm Post subject: Re: Hell has frozen over... Pat Buchanan actually makes sens |
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| pigeon768 wrote: | | Is the fact that George Zimmerman (the shooter) isn't white relevant to this discussion? |
The actual incident is for the police, courts and those involved to settle.
Regarding the Media Incident, race is the only relevant factor. To demonstrate:
| mcgruff wrote: | | That is exactly what Batshit Buchanan is saying. He attempts to portray black Americans as some kind of criminal underclass and he will not recognise [u]entirely justified complaints about a horrific racial incident. |
So, pigeon768, do you now see why race is the issue?
A "white-hispanic" is involved in a crime and it is racist because he is white. If he were the victim, you never would have heard he was white.
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| energyman76b wrote: | | The Earth wrote: | | Interesting. mcgruff goes on a racist screed and then reports my post calling him out on it. |
because you misquoted him. |
No I didn't. Everything I quoted was written by him. All of the disgusting racial slurs were only written by him. For some unknowable reason he seemed to be trying to insinuate that those disgusting thoughts came from Mr. Buchanan, but they did not. All were a product of the deranged racial screed by mcgruff.
| energyman76b wrote: | | and then called him racist. |
Actually, he flat out said that I thought killing black people because of the way they looked was ok. Beyond being a flat out lie, it's completely repugnant.
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| mcgruff wrote: | That is what Pat Buchanan is arguing for, and that's what Earth has presented to us as "good sense". Unless he was being ironic and I missed it. (Pssst: he's not being ironic).
Pat "Shit Crazy" Buchanan has attempted to portray black Americans as some kind of criminal class. He dismisses their complaints as some kind of hysterical, race war against the "real" America. He tries to excuse Zimmerman's actions.
It's one gold-plated fuck-up all the way from Zimmerman who pulled the trigger, the police who didn't bother to arrest him, to assholes like PB who refuse to deal with evident racial injustice. A classic example of the toxic combination of fear, stupidity and easily obtainable firearms. The first two are bad enough on their own but when you throw guns into the mix... |
Strawman, strawman, strawman. Show me where Pat advocated mowing down young black men that he doesn't like the looks. If not, then learn how to debate like an adult; not like some spoiled thirteen year old drama queen.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:35 pm Post subject: Re: Hell has frozen over... Pat Buchanan actually makes sens |
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| pjp wrote: | | A "white-hispanic" is involved in a crime and it is racist because he is white. If he were the victim, you never would have heard he was white. |
Mmm. "Zimmerman". Yes that's a fine old Latino name.
It's racist because - as you well know - he treated a kid out to buy some sweets like some kind of caricatured black gangbanger
The larger issue though, the one you can't see with your telescope held to your blind eye, is that no arrests were made. That's why this as blown up into such a big issue. A teenager was killed and justice has not been done.
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| Old School wrote: | | Strawman, strawman, strawman. Show me where Pat advocated mowing down young black men that he doesn't like the looks. |
WTF? You need to get your head out your ass. PB dismisses the outcry as the "exacerbation of and the exploitation of racial conflict". Normal human beings might see it as a demand for justice for a murdered son but, according to Pat, no wrong has been done: it is perfectly OK to perceive young black males as criminals.
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| mcgruff wrote: | | Old School wrote: | | Strawman, strawman, strawman. Show me where Pat advocated mowing down young black men that he doesn't like the looks. |
WTF? You need to get your head out your ass. PB dismisses the outcry as the "exacerbation of and the exploitation of racial conflict". Normal human beings might see it as a demand for justice for a murdered son. According to Pat, no wrong has been done: it is perfectly OK to perceive young black males as criminals. |
Need meds?
Did you read the same article the rest of us did?
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I read it and understood it.
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| mcgruff wrote: | | I read it and understood it. |
Pro-tip : That's not understanding, that's projection.
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Do you or do you not believe there is a good reason for the outcry?
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| mcgruff wrote: | | Do you or do you not believe there is a good reason for the outcry? |
I think the outcry should be why there is so much black on black crime as evidenced by this Jesse Jackson quote I posted earlier:
| Quote: | | There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved. . . . After all we have been through. Just to think we can't walk down our own streets, how humiliating. |
There is no evidence that the Treyvon shooting was racial in intent. Try reading the Juan Williams op-ed in (I believe) the Wall Street Journal.
Here it is.
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That's just another bizarre article supposedly about the Trayvon shooting which actually says almost nothing about it, although he does at least mention, briefly, that an arrest should have been made. However, his belief that black Americans don't complain about other things as much as they should is neither here nor there, even if it were true.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:02 am Post subject: Re: Hell has frozen over... Pat Buchanan actually makes sens |
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| mcgruff wrote: | | Mmm. "Zimmerman". Yes that's a fine old Latino name. |
Wow. That's priceless.
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No that would be Mr Unschätzbar. But to save you the trouble of dicking around for several further posts, our woodworking friend's ethnicity isn't that important. The important thing is what he did and even more important are the actions - or lack of them - of the police.
It's funny how some people will turn somersaults to avoid having to deal with that, isn't it?
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| Boris27 wrote: | | All tightening of control is aimed at foreigners. |
What about the crack-downs on the people growing it? Those aren't foreigners. What about the new restrictions on potency? Why are these being done?
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| mcgruff wrote: | No that would be Mr Unschätzbar. But to save you the trouble of dicking around for several further posts, our woodworking friend's ethnicity isn't that important. The important thing is what he did and even more important are the actions - or lack of them - of the police.
It's funny how some people will turn somersaults to avoid having to deal with that, isn't it? |
So why is the population where you live 95% white?
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