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 Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:22 am Post subject: Minimum alcohol price planned for England and Wales |
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Well at 40p a unit, that's around £2 (+) added to a bottle of IPA. Still it'll stop the beardy, sandal wearing real ale mob
going on the riot.
Arseholes. Now I've got to get me home brewing kit out of the shed again.
Edit - Aha, some contradictory info here, the wireless just mentioned adding the sum on, the article mentions minimum. Still
a price hike, for very little end result. Anybody have any good recipes for ale ?
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Im thinking about doing the same. Brew my own beer. One day that will be illegal too. Clowns
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:16 am Post subject: Re: Minimum alcohol price planned for England and Wales |
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Well at 40p a unit, that's around £2 (+) added to a bottle of IPA. |
I only know International Phonetic Alphabet. So does Wikipedia. I guess you mean something different. (Insanely? Instant? Industrial?) pure alcohol?
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http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-809505-start-15.html
edit: What is a "unit" in the present context? I keep thinking they're planning on adding one penis per 40 pence the drink costs. Actually, that's a pretty good idea. The UK should do that.
edit #2: | Quote: | - A £2.99 bottle of red wine, containing 9.4 units of alcohol, would be priced up to £3.76
- Cheap, strong lager at 75p a can, with three units per can, would become at least £1.20
- Bulk-bought strong cider, costing 87p a can and containing four units, would almost double to at least £1.60
- Cheap supermarket whisky at £16.10, with 40 units of alcohol, would probably be unchanged in price
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None of that math works. And you people complain about the US public education system.
edit #3: Nevermind. I got it. The examples are actually price floors as opposed to a flat tax on each penis. I mean unit.
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if your drinking £2 beer for pleasure you got other issues... cheap ass shit taste like amy winehouses pussy juice
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: Minimum alcohol price planned for England and Wales |
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| Clad in Sky wrote: | | John-Boy wrote: | Link
Well at 40p a unit, that's around £2 (+) added to a bottle of IPA. |
I only know International Phonetic Alphabet. So does Wikipedia. I guess you mean something different. (Insanely? Instant? Industrial?) pure alcohol? |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopropyl_alcohol  |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Minimum alcohol price planned for England and Wales |
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| ichbinsisyphos wrote: | | Clad in Sky wrote: | | John-Boy wrote: | Link
Well at 40p a unit, that's around £2 (+) added to a bottle of IPA. |
I only know International Phonetic Alphabet. So does Wikipedia. I guess you mean something different. (Insanely? Instant? Industrial?) pure alcohol? |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopropyl_alcohol |
Indian Pale Ale.
Brewed with pale malt partly to last the long journey to india. It got popular here.
My home brewery does a mean IPA
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| Naib wrote: | | if your drinking £2 beer for pleasure you got other issues... cheap ass shit taste like amy winehouses pussy juice |
do you mean £2 in the pub, or £2 in the store? It's really hard to find a 1/2 litre bottle of ale more than £2, and I get my beer at waitrose. All beer is certainly < £2.30, with most < £2. import fancy lager is a bit more, not much though. I think they are around 2 to 2.5 units, so well above the minimum price.
I am not sure what this would mean for me. I don't buy rock bottom beer, so I am not sure it will affect me. Might be a boon for makers of £2 beer, since all of the sudden they have less competition from the bottom. It might cause them to raise their prices. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:55 pm Post subject: Re: Minimum alcohol price planned for England and Wales |
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| John-Boy wrote: | Link
Well at 40p a unit, that's around £2 (+) added to a bottle of IPA. Still it'll stop the beardy, sandal wearing real ale mob
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I don't get it. how is a bottle of IPA 5 units? must be more than 1/2 litre, no? |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:01 pm Post subject: Re: Minimum alcohol price planned for England and Wales |
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| John-Boy wrote: | | Minimum alcohol price planned for England and Wales. |
 I hope you mean it does not concern Scotland ?
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something interesting here on how to curb drinking. there are some interesting ideas.
as a foreigner, I can tell you that some of the problems are cultural.
The article points out that we don't in fact drink as much as other europeans and that the problem isn't as bad as presented. Well, fuck you then and keep your tax hands off my beer.
But this gets to another point; brits are fucking mental on alcohol, and it is really tolerated. It is almost as if drinking is a license to do stupid shit here. I hear it all the time. so and so did some thing but he was drunk so its ok. No its not ok, asshole. I have lived in three countries and much of canada and nowhere have I seen the tolerance for stupid shit as high as it is here. I am not saying that it doesn't happen elsewhere, I am just very surprised by how much it is tolerated here. It's really juvenile. I think this is the reason why this problem gets so much press.
Another cultural point: buying rounds. It is a nice thing, but it does encourage drinking. The link proposes more of a system I am used to where a group has tab and then each individual pays at the end.
Ahhh, and here is a good one, get people back into pubs instead of drinking at home, where people drink more due to the privacy and lack of policing and price. Lower the VAT in pubs, and equalise the price between home and pub. Sounds great to me! |
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| juniper wrote: | | as a foreigner, I can tell you that some of the problems are cultural. |
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Do you mean they get some very specific problems because the English are hrmm... how would I say... English ?
I have always bet on this !
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| aCOSwt wrote: | | juniper wrote: | | as a foreigner, I can tell you that some of the problems are cultural. |
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Do you mean they get some very specific problems because the English are hrmm... how would I say... English ?
I have always bet on this ! |
my point is that guys and gals going out to have some fun should learn to police each other a bit. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: Minimum alcohol price planned for England and Wales |
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| juniper wrote: | | John-Boy wrote: | Link
Well at 40p a unit, that's around £2 (+) added to a bottle of IPA. Still it'll stop the beardy, sandal wearing real ale mob
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I don't get it. how is a bottle of IPA 5 units? must be more than 1/2 litre, no? |
It's me - it's not units I was on about the % strength, whereas it's actually units - which as you point out is different. I have had one of those weeks I'm afraid.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 4:26 pm Post subject: Re: Minimum alcohol price planned for England and Wales |
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| ichbinsisyphos wrote: | | Clad in Sky wrote: | | John-Boy wrote: | Link
Well at 40p a unit, that's around £2 (+) added to a bottle of IPA. |
I only know International Phonetic Alphabet. So does Wikipedia. I guess you mean something different. (Insanely? Instant? Industrial?) pure alcohol? |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isopropyl_alcohol |
A drop of coke and it goes down quite nicely.
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| juniper wrote: | | as a foreigner, I can tell you that some of the problems are cultural. |
We're an Anglo Saxon culture, drinking is part of that - or put more eloquently, we don't do the whole cafe thing.
Which wasn't a problem, then something went wrong over the past - thirty or so years.
| juniper wrote: | | Lower the VAT in pubs, and equalise the price between home and pub. Sounds great to me! |
Agree with that, also it doesn't help that the breweries tend to get a pre-emptive strike before any tax hike.
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| Naib wrote: | | if your drinking £2 beer for pleasure you got other issues... cheap ass shit taste like amy winehouses pussy juice |
Marston's tends to come in under that.
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| Bad luck if you drink cheap Tesco brand lager. |
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| pitcrawler wrote: | | Bad luck if you drink cheap Tesco brand lager. |
Indeed, Smart Price all the way.
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| John-Boy wrote: |
We're an Anglo Saxon culture, drinking is part of that - or put more eloquently, we don't do the whole cafe thing.
Which wasn't a problem, then something went wrong over the past - thirty or so years. |
it's not the drinking, its the crap surrounding drinking. you are a real dr jekyll/mr hyde kind of people. nice and "jolly good" during the day, but crazy after drinks. as I said, I think the tolerance for alcohol as an excuse for bad behaviour is high. |
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| juniper wrote: | | as I said, I think the tolerance for alcohol as an excuse for bad behaviour is high. |
Hips !
Sorry !
I am French... but... I am drunk !
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So, reduced prices of food with purchase?
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| Naib wrote: | | if your drinking £2 beer for pleasure you got other issues... cheap ass shit taste like amy winehouses pussy juice |
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| pitcrawler wrote: | | Bad luck if you drink cheap Tesco brand lager. |
So, what are you drinking now, in Oklahoma? They have only that watery 3.2 beer there, don't they?
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| BoneKracker wrote: | | pitcrawler wrote: | | Bad luck if you drink cheap Tesco brand lager. |
So, what are you drinking now, in Oklahoma? They have only that watery 3.2 beer there, don't they? |
They do sell stronger, imported stuff in liquor stores. |
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