Hillary gives India the finger

Muso · Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:01 am Post subject: Hillary gives India the finger

State Department exempts 11 countries from Iran sanctions

pjp · Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:12 am Post subject:

@notageek: Remember when I asked if India was trying to reduce their reliance on Iranian oil? It wasn't completely random.
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notageek · Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 5:15 am Post subject:

We might as well join up with Russia, Iran.
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notageek · Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:45 am Post subject:

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runningwithscissors · Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:51 am Post subject:

I just hope the politicians weighed this one well to conclude that it's more profitable to keep buying the oil in light of USia's stroppiness.

Because from what I've seen so far, Indian politicians are pretty weak when it comes to global politics. I wouldn't be surprised if they were assuming that USia will let them off the hook and came in for a rude awakening. They can be pretty gullible like that. Very little aptitude for realpolitik. The only time I remember them pulling it off is when they managed to split Bangladesh from Pakistan.
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notageek · Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:57 am Post subject:

Indian politics is determined by local issues. Do you remember how many hikes we've had in petrol prices? You think they're going to care what the US thinks, when we keep buying Iranian oil?

Here's the thing though.

US stops outsourcing, stops all working in dronecenters around India. Net impact: 3.2% of any metric.
India stops Iranian oil. Net impact 15% shortage of oil. Price of everything else shoots up. Inflation. We get poorer.
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pjp · Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:01 pm Post subject:

The US isn't going to stop, as you put it, dronecenters (lol). There's already too much of an investment for it to happen any time soon. If it happens, it will happen as a market based change where it no longer makes sense.

Also, it isn't suggested that you stop buying oil from Iran and do without, just source it from elsewhere. So the impact wouldn't be the same as you suggested because of some non-existent shortage.
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BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.

If it were the Bush Administration were doing this, all the Eurofags in this forum would be bellowing, "Economic Terrorist!! Bully! Global Authoritarian!" Obama does it? Not a fucking peep.

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notageek · Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:01 am Post subject:

That reminds me, anybody read this book?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man
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pjp · Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:11 am Post subject:

No, have you seen this movie?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_in_the_Shadows_of_Motown
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cach0rr0 · Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:12 am Post subject:

wonder if she snagged it at the severed limb shop nextdoor

notageek · Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 2:16 am Post subject:

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[quote="The Earth"]State Department exempts 11 countries from Iran sanctions

Old School · Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:01 pm Post subject:

I would have given those Euro countries that have been providing Iran with nuclear technology the finger, and given India a break.

India should be our greatest ally in that region.
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notageek · Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:40 pm Post subject:

Somebody said that we should probably dump Russia as our primary weapons supplier and make US as our primary weapons supplier.

Because, American weapons come with free American foreign policy.
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pjp · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:14 am Post subject:

We try to stay on friendlyish terms with Pakistan because they've got nukes.
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Old School · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:30 am Post subject:

pjp · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:45 am Post subject:

I don't get the connection? What does civil war have to do with his deciding to not be as much of an international asshat? If he had nukes, would the civil war not have happened? And we're still trying to influence an Iranian civil war / revolution.
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BoneKracker · Veteran Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 1488 Location: U.S.A.

If Qaddafi had nuclear weapons, NATO would not have intervened, creating an existential threat to his regime, his family, his entire way of life, and everything he had spent his life building. He would have seen such a threat as justification to use any weapons at his disposal.
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Old School · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:01 am Post subject:

pjp · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:30 am Post subject:

NATO support of a civil war isn't the same as claims of US imperialism, which seems to be Iran's assertion. But the civil war probably would have had less of a chance. I guess with nukes he could have said "If I can't have it, no one can."
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