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BonezTheGoon
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| pjp wrote: | | So, wouldn't that just be considered assimilating to the local culture? |
*Chuckle*
Yeah, "When in Rome . . . "
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Also, for the record, with the joking aside (and yes, kids, comedy is necessary to cope with most of this garbage) this is completely unacceptable. Yes, bring all our troops home. It's time we stop meddling.
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cach0rr0
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| pitcrawler wrote: | | How does the saying go? There's your side, then there's their side, then there's the truth. |
funny how information becomes more reliable once it's no longer "news"
the only bits ive had any confirmation on from people over there, is that this guy DID snap, that he'd had prior incidence of questionable mental faculty, stemming from domestic issues - basically that he should have never been cleared to go back out into combat.
whether this was him going apeshit during a raid, or him somehow managing to leave the FOB unnoticed (which would be a bit of a breakdown itself), undetermined far as i can gather.
trick is, the local populace doesnt have 24 hour cable news. They dont have al jazeera, cnn, msnbc, fnc, anything of the sort. So it's our word of mouth VS the taliban's word of mouth, as far as the people are concerned, and whatever "truth" comes out in the wash is immaterial, as theyll never get to see/hear it. It fucks up our operational capacity either way; the americans are arming madmen who will come and kill your women and children, whether it's some guy going off the reservation at random, or a guy that flips the fuck out during a raid. |
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jonnevers
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Old School wrote: | Bring the Men (and Women) back Home.
Let the Muzzies kill each other to their little heart's content. |
ftfy. |
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Old School
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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| jonnevers wrote: | | Old School wrote: | Bring the Men (and Women) back Home.
Let the Muzzies kill each other to their little heart's content. |
ftfy. |
See: Bring the Boys Back Home by Pink Floyd.
And if you are under the age of 25, you are a boy in my book. 
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| elyes wrote: | | The Earth, you are a joke ! |
Personal attacks are a no no Mr. elyes.
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pitcrawler
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| The GOP contenders are already politicizing it, the bunch of flip-floppers. "We might want to stop meddling. We need to bring the troops back home right now, or else Obama should say he's in it til the bitter end. No, he shouldn't tell people when he's bringing the troops back. We should have never gone into Afghanistan. We should have attacked Syria. We should attack Iran. Whatever happens it's all Obama's fault!" |
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Old School
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| pitcrawler wrote: | | The GOP contenders are already politicizing it, the bunch of flip-floppers. "We might want to stop meddling. We need to bring the troops back home right now, or else Obama should say he's in it til the bitter end. No, he shouldn't tell people when he's bringing the troops back. We should have never gone into Afghanistan. We should have attacked Syria. We should attack Iran. Whatever happens it's all Obama's fault!" |
Not all the GOP contenders.
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aidanjt
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:55 pm Post subject: |
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Yup, because the position, direction, charge, mass, and spin of every 'bad' photon is directly Obama's fault. And don't let those commie left wing media types tell you otherwise!
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dmitchell
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| cach0rr0 wrote: | | People's reasons for caring about this incident are going to vary. Some might care about how this affects our perception in various countries. I personally couldn't give a rat's ass how we're perceived, what I care about is that this is going to make the lives of our fighting men over there that much more difficult, and this is going to inspire yet more uneducated dim-witted goatfuckers to go and blow themselves and our people up in the name of Allah. We have enough enemies on our own, we don't need to be giving these people propaganda for recruitment. |
Other people have this thing called empathy. Not something that's really encouraged in trained killers, but pretty widespread in the more peaceful segments of society.
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cach0rr0
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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| dmitchell wrote: |
Other people have this thing called empathy. Not something that's really encouraged in trained killers, but pretty widespread in the more peaceful segments of society. |
have you gotten out and actually been exposed to enough segments of society to really comment on what's widespread? |
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dmitchell
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Of course.
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BoneKracker
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| aidanjt wrote: | | Yup, because the position, direction, charge, mass, and spin of every 'bad' photon is directly Obama's fault. And don't let those commie left wing media types tell you otherwise! |
Well, you might feel compelled to say so, but the initial conditions of all those photons, from the perspective of the Obama, were set by Bush. So really, everything is actually Bush's Fault™. Everybody knows this.
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BoneKracker
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| pitcrawler wrote: | | The GOP contenders are already politicizing it, the bunch of flip-floppers. "We might want to stop meddling. We need to bring the troops back home right now, or else Obama should say he's in it til the bitter end. No, he shouldn't tell people when he's bringing the troops back. We should have never gone into Afghanistan. We should have attacked Syria. We should attack Iran. Whatever happens it's all Obama's fault!" |
And this doesn't sound eerily familiar to you in any way? 
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notageek
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It was the guy's fourth deployment.
Was a decorated soldier.
Was injured before.
Part of his leg had to be removed.
Injury to brain.
His friend's leg was blown off, the day before.
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wswartzendruber
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I just saw something really interesting in the veteran's center today.
It was about this guy (we'll call him Bob) who had suffered traumatic brain injury in the Army. The last time I talked to Bob, he seemed really cognitive and alert. One of the other veterans warned me sometimes this guy got a little confused about some things, and that we should all look out for him. So some of us started helping him apply for college.
Well today Bob walked in the veterans center and became very confrontational. He said that one of us put hands on him, and the guy he accused was dumbfounded. Then Bob started swearing that all of us other veterans are looking for a fight with him because:
1. He was in the Army.
2. He's 90% Jewish.
3. He's Roman Catholic
4. We're white.
But Bob is clearly Hispanic. He ended up leaving in anger.
This has caused me to re-evaluate this other Soldier's performance in Afghanistan. Perhaps one of his commanding officers should be brought up and shot instead. |
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notageek
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What is 90% Jewish? Is that a race thing?
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pitcrawler
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| notageek wrote: | | What is 90% Jewish? Is that a race thing? |
How can a religion be classed as or associated with race? I've never understood it. But then, I've never understood religion. |
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pjp
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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| wswartzendruber wrote: | | One of the other veterans warned me sometimes this guy got a little confused about some things, and that we should all look out for him. So some of us started helping him apply for college. |
Not related to the post in general, but just this comment. Obviously "everyone" thought he wasn't too far off that he'd have a particularly rough time completing college, right? I'm just "gauging" how affected he was.
| wswartzendruber wrote: | | This has caused me to re-evaluate this other Soldier's performance in Afghanistan. Perhaps one of his commanding officers should be brought up and shot instead. |
I in no way condone any actions such as the thread subject, but I do believe in mitigating circumstances, making it a very different crime. I think the main issue is the stigma of needing support. Fortunately that is changing, a little. Even then, there is still the honor/pride in not wanting to leave your unit. Never mind the insults if you think you want to take care of your basic health and go to sick call.
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b0nafide
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| wswartzendruber wrote: | | Well today Bob walked in the veterans center and became very confrontational. |
I think that when people get confrontational about things that make absolutely no sense it's a safe bet that they are being tormented by delusions. Some people are extremely good at hiding their pain, so they might appear otherwise normal. Also the fact that you don't know what's going on may start to make them think that there's some kind of conspiracy underfoot because what they perceive is very real to them.
Get buddy to a doctor! |
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