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 Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:42 am Post subject: Obama campaign releasing documentary |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17303853
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17306926
(Two very different links, one is a video.)
Is this allowed? In India we have election code of conduct, which are laid down by the Election Commission of India. Something like this would've been a violation and would've been asked to stop its broadcast.
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Obama hasn't cared about the legality of anything he's done in office, so it really doesn't matter if it is or isn't legal. The MSM is fully asleep while on guard duty.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:25 am Post subject: Re: Obama campaign releasing documentary |
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| notageek wrote: | | Is this allowed? |
Who's going to stop him?
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:13 am Post subject: |
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Um.. three independent branches of the government?
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:14 am Post subject: |
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| notageek wrote: | | Um.. three independent branches of the government? |
By design. When actually respected and followed. Obama views the constitution as a road block for his "social justice".
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It looks more like a campaign video than a documentary. Kind of ridiculous but I don't see why it would be an ethics violation. And it doesn't appear to be a broadcast, the article said it's available at the campaign field offices.
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Because it's being released on the eve of elections?
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| Elections aren't until November... and what does the release date have to do with anything? |
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| notageek wrote: | | Because it's being released on the eve of elections? |
I see no reason why it would be illegal... but even if it were, Obama doesn't follow the law. So it matters not.
All that matters now is getting rid of this despot before he does more damage.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:29 am Post subject: |
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Okay, so the date to enforce the "code of conduct" hasn't arrived, yet.
Smart.
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| notageek wrote: | Okay, so the date to enforce the "code of conduct" hasn't arrived, yet.
Smart. |
It's not even that clean. The Attorney General of the United States is a corrupt fundraiser for Obama who had formerly been the force behind the Marc Rich pardon. AG Holder has blood on his hands with the Fast & Furious scandal... and set a policy within the justice department to ignore racist voter intimidation against white people.
Obama has a personal thug in place as the 'Top Cop' of the USA. Until Obama is douched out of power, there will be no real justice.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:39 am Post subject: Re: Obama campaign releasing documentary |
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| notageek wrote: | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17303853
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17306926
(Two very different links, one is a video.)
Is this allowed? In India we have election code of conduct, which are laid down by the Election Commission of India. Something like this would've been a violation and would've been asked to stop its broadcast. |
It's called propaganda and revisionism. He has to correct all the wrong ideas people have in their heads about him and about what has happened over the past four years. It's also called propaganda. Hell, even calling it a "documentary" is propaganda -- it's a bullshit campaign advertisement.
The Ministry of Truth 
Somebody should do a 15-minute documentary of what really went on, event by event, headline by headline.
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What do you think I am? I know this is a propaganda, and under our election rules, this would've been banned or the opposition would have made noise.
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Pretty much any kind of marketing campaign is propaganda. Hardly newsworthy.
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Yeah, but this is a propaganda that'd make Leni Riefenstahl proud.
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| notageek wrote: | | Yeah, but this is a propaganda that'd make Leni Riefenstahl proud. |
By sitting in campaign offices? It's not as if it's airing on prime-time national TV.
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Yeah, my bad, this video will not be broadcast on primetime TV.
Of course, nobody will upload this on to Internet, share via YouTube, Twitter and FaceBook.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:28 pm Post subject: Re: Obama campaign releasing documentary |
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Is this allowed? In India we have election code of conduct, which are laid down by the Election Commission of India. Something like this would've been a violation and would've been asked to stop its broadcast. |
sounds like in india the election commission would stop the prime minister from doing this. the USians, I believe, don't have an equivalent body. |
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| The Earth wrote: | | Obama hasn't cared about the legality of anything he's done in office, so it really doesn't matter if it is or isn't legal. The MSM is fully asleep while on guard duty. |
what precisely is illegal about this? money talks, and so does hollywood.
propaganda at its best. |
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| notageek wrote: | | Um.. three independent branches of the government? |
He is the executive branch, so he isn't going to suddenly have his heart grow three sizes. The judicial branch doesn't initiate anything. That leaves the legislative, which is little more than a white Persian on the lap of the executive.
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| juniper wrote: | | The Earth wrote: | | Obama hasn't cared about the legality of anything he's done in office, so it really doesn't matter if it is or isn't legal. The MSM is fully asleep while on guard duty. |
what precisely is illegal about this? |
Did you read the thread? While campaign laws are rather complex, and violations can occur for doing things like using federal buildings for campaign reasons, I clearly stated that I had no idea whether this was legal or not.
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If you stop and think for a while, this is a brilliant strategy. By not broadcasting it on public TV, they're able to avoid restrictions that may be on these things. And, they'll broadcast it over the regular Internet channels such as FB, Twitter etc, which will get them a wider audience and more importantly help avoid any election related restriction that may (or may not) be.
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| pjp wrote: | | notageek wrote: | | Um.. three independent branches of the government? |
He is the executive branch, so he isn't going to suddenly have his heart grow three sizes. The judicial branch doesn't initiate anything. That leaves the legislative, which is little more than a white Persian on the lap of the executive. |
The judicial branch create common law precedent, and it doesn't necessarily have to be reflected in legislation (i.e. tort law)
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| sugar wrote: | | pjp wrote: | | notageek wrote: | | Um.. three independent branches of the government? |
He is the executive branch, so he isn't going to suddenly have his heart grow three sizes. The judicial branch doesn't initiate anything. That leaves the legislative, which is little more than a white Persian on the lap of the executive. |
The judicial branch create common law precedent, and it doesn't necessarily have to be reflected in legislation (i.e. tort law) |
No.
The people create common law precedent that the court might recognize.
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