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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My best guess is that the distance was measured by NASA and someone there used miles, yards, feet, hands, inches, and mils - instead of the metre.

Crappy AP article. Sorry.
Physical and chemical scientist in the US use the metric system for their measurements. The problem comes in when they have to interface with engineers that use the imperial system.

We had to use metric measurements in my chemistry and physics classes back in the early '80s.

(yeah, I know that I am showing my age :) )

I was using metric in school in the 60's. So who is showing age now, buddy?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old School wrote:
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My best guess is that the distance was measured by NASA and someone there used miles, yards, feet, hands, inches, and mils - instead of the metre.

Crappy AP article. Sorry.
Physical and chemical scientist in the US use the metric system for their measurements. The problem comes in when they have to interface with engineers that use the imperial system.

We had to use metric measurements in my chemistry and physics classes back in the early '80s.

(yeah, I know that I am showing my age :) )

I was using metric in school in the 60's. So who is showing age now, buddy?
You win, old man. :lol:
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gerard82 was using Imperial units in school in the '40s, when "Imperial" actually meant something because he was in a far-flung part of the British Empire, which actually existed at the time. Top that, young whipper-snappers.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't fight those who are older than dirt. :)
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/23/us-physics-neutrinos-cable-idUSTRE81L2B820120223

loose cable
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/23/us-physics-neutrinos-cable-idUSTRE81L2B820120223

loose cable

So who screwed it up? The major participants were French, Russian, Italian, and Swiss. My intuition says it was the Italians.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ziggysquatch wrote:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/23/us-physics-neutrinos-cable-idUSTRE81L2B820120223

loose cable
That's a lame excuse. Don't believe it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So no warp speed.

I guess ludicrous speed is now out too.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So who screwed it up? The major participants were French, Russian, Italian, and Swiss. My intuition says it was the Italians.
Did one of them have a parrot on their shoulder when they went into the bar?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:42 am    Post subject: neutrinos appeared to travel faster than the speed of light! Reply with quote

http://www.newelectronics.co.uk/electronics-technology/faster-than-the-speed-of-light/37725/

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At just over 186,000m/s, the speed of light (the 'C' in Einstein's E=MC2) plays a fundamental role in nearly every aspect of physics. It's also been a useful device for many a B movie and sci fi novel. Since HG Wells published The Time Machine in 1895, the idea of exceeding the speed of light and entering the realms of time travel, has been one that has consistently captured the public imagination.


Revered astrophysicists Carl Sagan and Stephen Hawking further piqued the public's fascination with talk of worm holes. And while Sagan remained reserved on the possibility of time travel, significantly he added that he believed it was still worth exploring.

Astrophysicists concede that until the speed of light can be exceeded, time travel will remain an impossibility. But in September 2011 researchers working on the Opera experiment at CERN, Geneva, made an announcement that has the potential to turn the very foundation of physics on its head.


we can prepare to travel to stars soon :)
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't this old?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think so.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:55 am    Post subject: Re: neutrinos appeared to travel faster than the speed of li Reply with quote

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we can prepare to travel to stars soon :)


Careful, it looks like you've slipped back to October 2011 already from all that excessive speed.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.newelectronics.co.uk/electronics-news/opera-reports-anomaly-in-time-flight-of-neutrinos/40481/

this discussion was dated 23 February 2012

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Researchers at OPERA have announced that there is an anomaly in the flight time of neutrinos travelling from CERN to Gran Sasso.


The team had previously reported that neutrinos appeared to travel faster than the speed of light. In a statement, the researchers identified two possible effects that could have an influence on the timing measurements. If confirmed, one would increase the size of the measured effect, while the other would diminish it. Further tests will be made using a short pulsed beam.


though old news for today if it was true we have hope of visiting stars :)
i did not notice the date till you mentioned old wswartzendruber
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slow news day? This is way older. In fact it's possible that it was falsified by now. Basically everybody, including the people that did them, expect that it is due to some fault in their experiments.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It has been falsified by now, read about it few weeks back, think it was the instrumentation thing or some such.

EDIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OPERA_neutrino_anomaly
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if only i had done the experiment it would have been successful :)
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I told you guys it was bollocks. I knew it would turn out to be a problem with the apparatus.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still say it was the Italians.
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