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BoneKracker Veteran


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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:55 am Post subject: Ultrabook: does this mean anything? |
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So the big thing at the CES was the emergence of "Ultrabooks", which are supposed to put an end to tablets.
1. How is this any different from a notebook or netbook? Did we really need a new name?
2. Does this mean drizek's notebook, netbook, or tablet is now obsolete? _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
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sts Tux's lil' helper


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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:03 am Post subject: |
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| I stumbled upon this term a couple weeks ago. As far as I could figure out, an "Ultrabook" is basically a non-Apple Macbook Air. |
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drizek n00b


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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:24 am Post subject: Re: Ultrabook: does this mean anything? |
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| BoneKracker wrote: | | 2. Does this mean drizek's notebook, netbook, or tablet is now obsolete? |
No, it means the rest of you now have a half-assed imitation. _________________ Stand With Mittens |
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BoneKracker Veteran


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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:32 am Post subject: Re: Ultrabook: does this mean anything? |
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| drizek wrote: | | BoneKracker wrote: | | 2. Does this mean drizek's notebook, netbook, or tablet is now obsolete? |
No, it means the rest of you now have a half-assed imitation. |
Have you got a Macbook Air? _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:37 am Post subject: |
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Ultrabook is owned by Intel, so it seems unlikely there will ever be an AMD based Ultrabook. So I'll just go with an ARM or whatever AMD produces.
| Quote: | | Intel claims a trademark in the name Ultrabook.[3] By this marketing initiative and an associated $300 million fund, Intel hopes to reinvigorate the PC market against rising competition from tablet computers, which are typically powered by rivaling ARM-based processors.[4] Announced at Computex 2011,[5] Intel's aim is that by the end of 2012, 40% of the consumer laptop market segment will be Ultrabooks. |
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notageek Tux's lil' helper


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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:41 am Post subject: |
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I don't get why people want these under performing devices anyway.
If you want a portable computer, you need something that is as powerful as the computer your portabling. End of story. _________________ What looks like a cat, flies like a bat, brays like a donkey, and plays like a monkey? |
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runningwithscissors Guru


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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:50 am Post subject: Re: Ultrabook: does this mean anything? |
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| BoneKracker wrote: | | drizek wrote: | | BoneKracker wrote: | | 2. Does this mean drizek's notebook, netbook, or tablet is now obsolete? |
No, it means the rest of you now have a half-assed imitation. |
Have you got a Macbook Air? | Yeah. drizek is probably the worst commie in the world. _________________ At some stage, the Hindus locked on to the nation destroying concepts like ahimsa (non-violence), shanti (peace), satya (truth) — the ‘ass’ syndrome. |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:51 am Post subject: |
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| notageek wrote: | I don't get why people want these under performing devices anyway.
If you want a portable computer, you need something that is as powerful as the computer your portabling. End of story. | You only need a computer as powerful as the tasks you intend to perform while mobile. That typically does not require the same "power." _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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notageek Tux's lil' helper


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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:51 am Post subject: |
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@rws
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:55 am Post subject: |
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| So, it's ThinkPad X300? |
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BoneKracker Veteran


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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 4:57 am Post subject: |
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| pjp wrote: | | notageek wrote: | I don't get why people want these under performing devices anyway.
If you want a portable computer, you need something that is as powerful as the computer your portabling. End of story. | You only need a computer as powerful as the tasks you intend to perform while mobile. That typically does not require the same "power." |
I lean toward notageek's position on this. I've always found laptops/notebooks to be slow. _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
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drizek n00b


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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:11 am Post subject: |
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slow for what?
It doesn't matter anymore. My Macbook Air is an ancient Core 2 Duo 1.86GHz and it is plenty fast enough. I'll probably get an Ivy Bridge one though in a few months. _________________ Stand With Mittens |
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pjp Administrator


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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:12 am Post subject: |
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I couldn't understand why anyone would want a laptop. Then I bought one, and I've never wanted an actual desktop since. My laptop is more powerful than my last desktop (though I have a newer "server" using desktop HW).
The only real limitation I've encountered was disk space and RAM. And neither were a problem for my original intended use of the laptop which did NOT include virtualization. Disk space is easily solved now, though I'm considering an SSD which wouldn't help much for space. The RAM issue is only for VirtualBox and running multiple VMs at the same time. Neither would be an issue for me using a newer laptop. _________________ lolgov. 'cause where we're going, you don't have civil liberties.
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notageek Tux's lil' helper


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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:13 am Post subject: |
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I have a powerful laptop. It is huge and has only enough juice to last three hours. _________________ What looks like a cat, flies like a bat, brays like a donkey, and plays like a monkey? |
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BoneKracker Veteran


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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| drizek wrote: | slow for what?
It doesn't matter anymore. My Macbook Air is an ancient Core 2 Duo 1.86GHz and it is plenty fast enough. I'll probably get an Ivy Bridge one though in a few months. |
I mean less snappy and less responsive, compared to a well-equipped desktop machine. _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
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drizek n00b


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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:16 am Post subject: |
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with an SSD and Apple's amazing touchpad and keyboard, it is much nicer to use than a regular desktop. I am only considering an upgrade because of the high resale value of Apple products. _________________ Stand With Mittens |
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:34 am Post subject: |
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I admire your courage, talking about Apple that way in here. _________________ Oldthinkers unbellyfeel INGSOC.
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energyman76b Advocate


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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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at home: desktop
while 'on the road': my smartphone and a mp3 player cover all my needs
at work: desktop
no need for *book at all. _________________
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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Ultrabooks proves that Intel is _bad_ at marketing. They have no idea about the market and hide behind likes of Dell, Acer, Lennovo etc... for it.
Instead of battling out ARM, they should themselves do R&D on it and start manufacturing it. _________________ Buy from companies supporting opensource -- IBM, Dell, HP, Hitachi, Google etc...
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Marketing's all Intel have got at this point and they can't even get that right. Their performance demo was prerecorded game footage. AMD's demo had prerecorded video too, but for a different reason. |
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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Marketing is all Intel has?
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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I played around with the windows 8 dev preview and realized that it would be perfect for replacing the iPad. Sure enough, at CES Lenovo displays their thinkpad yoga. It's the best of both worlds: size, weight, and ease of use of the iPad with a keyboard that flips out from under it with the power of a laptop (core i-series processor). Throw in some gorilla glass 2 and Lenovo's reputation for durability, and you've got yourself one device that does everything. I see the iPad (and iPad-like tablets) seeing the same fate as the Flip camera as soon as 2013.
Windows 8 has the new unified interface, Ubuntu is moving on with Unity, and there are also a bunch of android-derived interfaces for working with touch + keyboard. How long can apple possibly keep insisting that a touchscreen will never end up on a macbook? |
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drizek n00b


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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| rtomek wrote: | | I see the iPad (and iPad-like tablets) seeing the same fate as the Flip camera as soon as 2013. |
If I was Mitt Romney, I'd bet you $10,000 that this statement is massively, massively, wrong. _________________ Stand With Mittens |
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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| drizek wrote: | | rtomek wrote: | | I see the iPad (and iPad-like tablets) seeing the same fate as the Flip camera as soon as 2013. |
If I was Mitt Romney, I'd bet you $10,000 that this statement is massively, massively, wrong. |
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