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hellbringer
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Or so it seems
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dmitchell
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I blame global warming. Either that or the detector was six light nanoseconds closer than they thought.
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hellbringer
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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| dmitchell wrote: | | I blame global warming. Either that or the detector was six light nanoseconds closer than they thought. |
Damn sozialists, can't even measure distance correctly! 
Seriously if this get's confirmed it's huge news.
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Quite a lot would need to be reinvented... |
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ichbinsisyphos
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| Teh Syents always sez nothing is faster than the speed of light. |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| hellbringer wrote: | | Seriously if this get's confirmed it's huge news. |
Fuckin' A Bubba!
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| hellbringer wrote: | | Seriously if this get's confirmed it's huge news. |
But then again it's publicised in Reuters earlier than Nature or Science, and those journals have some tight restrictions about not publishing in mainstream media (or any kind of media for that matter) first. Granted, _if_ it turns out to be real you don't need Science or Nature in your publication list any more, but the fact that the first I heard about this was on /. makes me kind of hesitate to give in to the hype... (even if it will cost me the right to sincerly claim that I was into superluminal propagation when it was still underground) |
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wildhorse
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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My best guess is that the distance was measured by NASA and someone there used miles, yards, feet, hands, inches, and mils - instead of the metre.
Crappy AP article. Sorry. |
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| wildhorse wrote: | | My best guess is that the distance was measured by NASA and someone there used miles, yards, feet, hands, inches, and mils - instead of the metre. |
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France's National Institute for Nuclear and Particle Physics Research collaborated with Italy's Gran Sasso National Laboratory on the experiment at CERN.
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your move hoss |
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Old School
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With Italians and French doing the research, it's amazing they haven't given up already.
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there's no reason to believe that on a long enough timeline, einstein's understanding of relativity will be proven false or at least woefully incomplete. a thousand years from now, our descendants will look back at us like we're fucking cavemen... that instead of thought-linking, those neanderthals actually had to pick up phones and dial with their hands... and people actually got in metal boxes with wheels to commute to work.
| Old School wrote: | | With Italians and French doing the research, it's amazing they haven't given up already. |
someone told the french it was false without explanation or reasoning. the french have already backed down. meanwhile, the italians haven't stopped talking loudly and waving their hands around to hear anything. |
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I don't even have a layman's understanding of the subject, but I've always thought it seemed unlikely, just because we didn't know otherwise.
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| hellbringer wrote: | | dmitchell wrote: | | I blame global warming. Either that or the detector was six light nanoseconds closer than they thought. |
Damn sozialists, can't even measure distance correctly! |
Taxpayer-funded scientific research has about as much to do with socialism as my left nut. Collectivism, yes. Socialism specifically, no. Not to get all serious on you or anything. 
By the way, the U.S. helped design the CERN LHC, has built and donated many key components, and participates in many LHC programs. Of course, that was mostly during the anti-science dumb-ass redneck Bush Administration. I don't know what our involvement has been recently.
As to faster than speed of light, sounds like premature ejaculation to me.
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| ichbinsisyphos wrote: | | Teh Syents always sez nothing is faster than the speed of light. |
TeH Scyents!!1! 
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So the thing to do, then, would be to hypothesize what caused the speedup and alter factors to increase it in order to lend credence to your claims.
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| doubleagent wrote: | | So the thing to do, then, would be to hypothesize what caused the speedup and alter factors to increase it in order to lend credence to your claims. |
No, no, no.
What you do is create a computer model, and input about a tenth of the data necessary, then make up the rest to support your thesis.
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Yeah. And hide the decline.
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I love how people have managed to turn a pretty interesting development in physics to yet another "OMG SOZIALISM, AGW! USA, USA, USA!!" thread. Shame on all of you, you have lost all your geek credentials.  .
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| Hey, I'm a right-winged freak and I never said anything of the sort! |
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| hellbringer wrote: | | I love how people have managed to turn a pretty interesting development in physics to yet another "OMG SOZIALISM, AGW! USA, USA, USA!!" thread. Shame on all of you, you have lost all your geek credentials. . |
I blame dmitchell and hellbringer.
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hellbringer
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| wswartzendruber wrote: | | Hey, I'm a right-winged freak and I never said anything of the sort! |
Quit being an individual!
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| cach0rr0 wrote: | | wildhorse wrote: | | My best guess is that the distance was measured by NASA and someone there used miles, yards, feet, hands, inches, and mils - instead of the metre. |
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France's National Institute for Nuclear and Particle Physics Research collaborated with Italy's Gran Sasso National Laboratory on the experiment at CERN.
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your move hoss |
In case you have not noticed or do not understand the experiment, one of the detectors is located at the LNGS at a distance of more than 700 km from CERN. The LHC at CERN is the source of the neutrino beam. Someone had to measure this distance, which could have been done by NASA. I do know that GPS was utilised for the measurement. Pure speculation on my part that this is another screw-up with imperial units in the USA, but it is quite possible and would be funny.
| BoneKracker wrote: | | By the way, the U.S. helped design the CERN LHC, has built and donated many key components, and participates in many LHC programs. Of course, that was mostly during the anti-science dumb-ass redneck Bush Administration. I don't know what our involvement has been recently. |
The USA contributed the shitters and not much else. That was a purely political decision. In return scientists from the USA took a lot of new ideas home. By the time Bush & Gangstas managed to wreck science in the USA, most of the construction at LHC was already done anyway. BTW the nuclear physics program at BNL (USA) was funded by the Japanese. And the few sites still operating in the USA would have to be closed if it weren't for the contributions from the EU. |
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That's not what your sister said.
Also, what did Spain contribute? Cucumber salad for the construction workers?
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| BoneKracker wrote: | That's not what your sister said.
Also, what did Spain contribute? Cucumber salad for the construction workers? |
Debt. We have plenty of it! In fact we can create debt faster than any fucking neutrinos!
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| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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Quoting Jim Alkhalili's comments on Twitter :
| Quote: | | Right, if the CERN experiment proves to be correct and neutrinos have broken the speed of light, I will eat my boxer shorts on live TV. |
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| Quote: | | It's not that I am closed to new discoveries, but rather that FTL travel violates causality for f**k's sake. |
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