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mp342 Apprentice

Joined: 03 Aug 2010 Posts: 165 Location: France
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:48 am Post subject: |
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Hi,
I'm want to try your seeds but i use genkernel. Is there an easy way to configure your seed for genkernel ?
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Marc |
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pappy_mcfae Watchman


Joined: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 5807 Location: Pomona, California.
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pappy_mcfae Watchman


Joined: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 5807 Location: Pomona, California.
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:14 am Post subject: |
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mp342,
You don't need genkernel at all, especially when working with a seed. The kernel seed is meant to be used in lieu of things such as genkernel. You can use genkernel to compile a seed, but that's like going around the block to get next door.
Go to the main site, or one of the mirrors, and click on "How to work with a kernel seed". That will give you the basics about kernel compilation and working with a seed. If you still need extra help after that, you can send me a private message about anything you don't quite understand.
Cheers,
Pappy _________________ SITE LIST:
Main: http://www.kernel-seeds.org
Mirror: http://kernel-seeds.grytpype-thynne.org/
Mirror 2: http://kernel-seeds.gentoostudio.org/
Mirror 3: http://www.elilabs.com/~pappy/
Mirror 4: http://62.3.120.142/~seeds/ |
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pappy_mcfae Watchman


Joined: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 5807 Location: Pomona, California.
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pappy_mcfae Watchman


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Moriah Veteran


Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Posts: 1815 Location: Warsaw KY US
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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What do you mean "google ads from the home page"? I haven't checked the seeds home page for a few days, but I don't remember seeing any ads, google or otherwise. Was this deliberate on your part to have them, or was there a hack (in the black hat sense of the term)?  _________________ The MyWord KJV Bible tool is at http://www.elilabs.com/~myword
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pappy_mcfae Watchman


Joined: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 5807 Location: Pomona, California.
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pappy_mcfae Watchman


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Moriah Veteran


Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Posts: 1815 Location: Warsaw KY US
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Posted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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Pappy, you should add to your seed page html code "border=0" to the seed images, so the rectangle will not box around the seed png image.
So your line that looks like:
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<p><font size="4"><b><a href="settings-01.html"><img src="indigo-seed.png" width="30" height="50" />Kernel Seed Settings</a></b></font></p>
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should look like:
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<p><font size="4"><b><a href="settings-01.html"><img src="indigo-seed.png" width="30" height="50" border="0">Kernel Seed Settings</a></b></font></p>
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Also, the slash before the close angle-bracket is wrong; I took it out.
You should check out Tidy, the html checker at http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett/tidy/ _________________ The MyWord KJV Bible tool is at http://www.elilabs.com/~myword
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pappy_mcfae Watchman


Joined: 27 Dec 2007 Posts: 5807 Location: Pomona, California.
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:11 am Post subject: |
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Moriah,
Actually, the border is a desired trait. I'd imagine there are more than a few errors in the page, but at this point, it's working like I want it to work, and that's good enough for me. I am planning expanding into the 3.1 series since it is in rc, and would most likely be at standard release level once I get finished updating things. I tell you, it's a good thing I don't have to redo EVERYTHING! It would make me lose what is left of my mind.
The site is in serious need of an update, but there are a few other things that have to happen before I get to that point. One of those is figuring out where I'm going to be living two weeks from now.
Cheers,
Pappy _________________ SITE LIST:
Main: http://www.kernel-seeds.org
Mirror: http://kernel-seeds.grytpype-thynne.org/
Mirror 2: http://kernel-seeds.gentoostudio.org/
Mirror 3: http://www.elilabs.com/~pappy/
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pappy_mcfae Watchman


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Moriah Veteran


Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Posts: 1815 Location: Warsaw KY US
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:07 pm Post subject: |
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Oh no! A major kernel release.
This is always trouble for those of us who are running production systems. What features does 3.0.0 bring to the table, and what reasons will be forcing us to update, such as udev changes, etc.?
Its great fun to play with a new kernel on a disposable lab system, but its major pain and risk to install such a thing before it becomes necessary on a production system. What do you think the timetable will be looking like? _________________ The MyWord KJV Bible tool is at http://www.elilabs.com/~myword
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NeddySeagoon Administrator


Joined: 05 Jul 2003 Posts: 29983 Location: 56N 3W
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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Moriah,
Its the 20th annaversary edition is all. There are no new features or breaks with the past.
Think of it as 2.6.40. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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Moriah Veteran


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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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Oh.
Too bad they rushed into 2.x 10 years ago, or they could have released 2.0 for 20th anniversary!  _________________ The MyWord KJV Bible tool is at http://www.elilabs.com/~myword
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Trog Dog Apprentice

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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:34 am Post subject: |
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And screwed for the 30th anniversary too  |
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dwbowyer Tux's lil' helper

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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| That's like saying 2000 was the start of the new millenium. 1.x was the first decade of linux (so to speak), 2.x was the second. 3.x marks the start of the 3rd. |
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lgringo n00b

Joined: 16 Aug 2011 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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Hi !
Amazing work ! I've just found this topic and linked to the kernel seeds homepage.
May I suggest something ?
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<*> Support for frame buffer devices --->
If you want to watch your system boot, or be able to use the CLI, you need a frame buffer. If you don't have a frame buffer, you don't see anything on the screen until you start X. This is an essential setting. Without it, a Linux computer is pretty much useless.
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In fact, except for non x86 users, frame buffers is not mandatory, as it's written in CONFIG_FB help :
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Say Y here and to the driver for your graphics board below if you are compiling a kernel for a non-x86 architecture.
If you are compiling for the x86 architecture, you can say Y if you want to play with it, but it is not essential. Please note that running graphical applications that directly touch the hardware (e.g. an accelerated X server) and that are not frame buffer device-aware may cause unexpected results. If unsure, say N.
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IMHO, as kernel seeds are designed for speed and stability, desktop and x86, Framebuffer should be off by default. Framebuffer are just useful to get "graphical" console ... and it's slower than "real text" console. |
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pappy_mcfae Watchman


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emc Apprentice


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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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I'm really interessted in... FB configuration, should KMS be on or off, and what's about graphical progress bar during booting.
| lgringo wrote: | Hi !
Amazing work ! I've just found this topic and linked to the kernel seeds homepage.
May I suggest something ?
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<*> Support for frame buffer devices --->
If you want to watch your system boot, or be able to use the CLI, you need a frame buffer. If you don't have a frame buffer, you don't see anything on the screen until you start X. This is an essential setting. Without it, a Linux computer is pretty much useless.
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In fact, except for non x86 users, frame buffers is not mandatory, as it's written in CONFIG_FB help :
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Say Y here and to the driver for your graphics board below if you are compiling a kernel for a non-x86 architecture.
If you are compiling for the x86 architecture, you can say Y if you want to play with it, but it is not essential. Please note that running graphical applications that directly touch the hardware (e.g. an accelerated X server) and that are not frame buffer device-aware may cause unexpected results. If unsure, say N.
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IMHO, as kernel seeds are designed for speed and stability, desktop and x86, Framebuffer should be off by default. Framebuffer are just useful to get "graphical" console ... and it's slower than "real text" console. |
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NeddySeagoon Administrator


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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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emc,
KMS should be on if you have a chipset then needs it for Xorg. With KMS on, most framebuffers either don't work themselves or interfere with KMS and the Xorg driver you would like to use.
I think vesafb is still safe with KMS. IF you want a boot time splash screen, with a progres bar an startup and shutdown, you need framebuffer splash that link is old but it is good background reading and links to other documentation. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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emc Apprentice


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Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| ok thx. I just wanna be sure |
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pappy_mcfae Watchman


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