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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bouncer currently not working: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358017
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bouncer currently not working: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=358017


keep trying, they are updating it.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ask myself why there is GCC 4.5.2 on the dvd while it is still not marked stable in portage on my boxes :/
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just heard about this, great work. Does this include a new gdm-theme ?
If so, will the ebuild x11-themes/gdm-theme-livecd be updated?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so exactly what happens if I emerge something using this livedvd? where it will be installed? and the old package included in the dvd will be ignored? that's a very strange thing :-)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FieserKiller wrote:
I ask myself why there is GCC 4.5.2 on the dvd while it is still not marked stable in portage on my boxes :/

Interesting question indeed ! the same for glibc 2.12 and binutils...

Anyway ! Thanks a lot for this initiative, I have been a happy user of the 10th edition that enabled me to check that everything I needed was working on my hardware and incidentally installing gentoo on my box !
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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so exactly what happens if I emerge something using this livedvd? where it will be installed? and the old package included in the dvd will be ignored? that's a very strange thing :-)

My opinion is that the livedvd is made so you do not really need to emerge anything.
Apart if you use it for installing gentoo on your system or as some rescue base, in which case, the emerge you will do will be under a chrooted environment.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kde-4.6.1 is now the latest version.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:03 pm    Post subject: Kudos Reply with quote

likewhoa, thank you for the LiveDVD/USB.

IMHO a LiveDVD is a valuable marketing tool for a distribution, and the lack of a more frequent one for Gentoo is a pity as it means Gentoo is out of the Linux spotlight on sites such as tuxmachines.org (and DistroWatch). I think the availability of a LiveDVD/USB makes people more likely to try out a distribution they have not used before.

Anyway, a big 'thumbs up' from me! :)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think everyone is welcome

# ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 emerge gcc glibc -pv
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just tried out the livecd last night and really liked it. Is there a way to install it as an os to my hard disk?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cabalinho wrote:
I just tried out the livecd last night and really liked it. Is there a way to install it as an os to my hard disk?

If you mean the LiveDVD then... if you think about something like dd if=... then... it is strongly disrecommended.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

FieserKiller wrote:
I ask myself why there is GCC 4.5.2 on the dvd while it is still not marked stable in portage on my boxes :/


This is because the whole live{DVD,USB} environment is ~ARCH ;)

sethleon wrote:
Just heard about this, great work. Does this include a new gdm-theme ?
If so, will the ebuild x11-themes/gdm-theme-livecd be updated?


No, it only includes KDM as the login manager but if you change /etc/conf.d/xdm to use GDM you'll see a nice theme that's used for GDM.

Krog wrote:
so exactly what happens if I emerge something using this livedvd? where it will be installed? and the old package included in the dvd will be ignored? that's a very strange thing :-)


This Live{DVD,USB} uses AUFS2 for / writes so it's basically like a normal system, so you are able to emerge new packages like you would normally do on your desktop or server machine, The only drawback is that once you reboot the changes are gone.

There is one feature that allows certains changes to persist on reboot and this is called persistence-mode. Persistence mode will allow any changes you make to $HOME to be written to the usb drive the Live{USB,DVD} runs off. Please see the F9 boot option for more information on AUFS2 and Persistence Mode.

bandreabis wrote:
kde-4.6.1 is now the latest version.


This will be included in the next maintenance release in a few weeks ;)

manaru wrote:
i think everyone is welcome

# ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~amd64 emerge gcc glibc -pv


The Live{DVD,USB} is already ~ARCH :p
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:24 am    Post subject: A great job Reply with quote

I really like this live DVD as I had never tried it before. Like another person posted it would be nice to have a way to install from this. I tried out Gentoo some time ago but could not get it to work. It was so long ago I forget what happened. I think it as some where in the guide that I got stuck on. I tried out Sabayon but did not like it all that much. I did an update on it and broke the system but it was my fault as I was trying to mix the 2 environments. I went back to Arch Linux after that using the easy install guide. I would love to see a easier install for Gentoo as well. I am using this on my thumb drive and just amazed at how great it runs. I might try out Gentoo again at some point.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG !
I really like all the artwork (icons, desktops etc.), how can i get them ? :D
I can find only gentoo 10 artwork in portage :?

P.S. And adobe-flash installation was flawless.Thank you :D
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there a preview of the artwork anywhere?

I'd like to check it out.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:12 am    Post subject: Running the LiveDVD in a virtual machine Reply with quote

I tried the multilib ISO (livedvd-x86-amd64-32ul-11.0.iso) with VirtualBox 4.0.2 r69518 on my Core i7 laptop but could not get Gentoo amd64 to boot; only Gentoo x86 would boot to a working desktop. I posted my problem in Gentoo Bugzilla Bug Report No. 354643. Fernando V. came to my rescue and advised me that the image works much better with QEMU-KVM than VirtualBox. So here is how I got it working in the end with QEMU-KVM following his advice:

1. Go to my home directory, then log in as root user:
Code:
$ cd
$ su

2. Install qemu-kvm:
Code:
# emerge -1v qemu-kvm

The following message was displayed at the end of the build:
Code:
    * If you don't have kvm compiled into the kernel, make sure you have
    * the kernel module loaded before running kvm. The easiest way to
    * ensure that the kernel module is loaded is to load it on boot.
    * For AMD CPUs the module is called 'kvm-amd'
    * For Intel CPUs the module is called 'kvm-intel'
    * Please review /etc/conf.d/modules for how to load these
    *
    * Make sure your user is in the 'kvm' group
    * Just run 'gpasswd -a <USER> kvm', then have <USER> re-login.
    *
    * You will need the Universal TUN/TAP driver compiled into your
    * kernel or loaded as a module to use the virtual network device
    * if using -net tap.  You will also need support for 802.1d
    * Ethernet Bridging and a configured bridge if using the provided
    * kvm-ifup script from /etc/kvm.
    *
    * The gnutls use flag was renamed to ssl, so adjust your use flags.

3. Add myself to the kvm group:
Code:
# gpasswd -a fitzcarraldo kvm

4. Load the module for my Intel Core i7 CPU:
Code:
# modprobe kvm-intel

5. Check the module was loaded:
Code:
# lsmod | grep kvm
kvm_intel              39148  0
kvm                   183285  1 kvm_intel
#

6. Log out as root user, to get back to my own account:
Code:
# exit

7. Log out of my own account, and log back in again.

8. Check that the "lm" flag is set for my CPU in the file /proc/cpuinfo, otherwise it is not possible to use qemu-kvm with my CPU and this ISO:
Code:
$ cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep " lm "

9. Create disk image file:
Code:
$ qemu-img create -f qcow qemu_disk.img 3G

10. Launch the ISO in QEMU-KVM:
Code:
$ qemu-kvm -smp 2 -m 1024m -boot d -cdrom ./livedvd-x86-amd64-32ul-11.0.iso -hda qemu_disk.img


Have to say that the LiveDVD is excellent. If only it could be spread more amongst the Linux community, more people would realise how good Gentoo is. Pity there's no installer on the LiveDVD.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 1:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Running the LiveDVD in a virtual machine Reply with quote

Fitzcarraldo wrote:
I tried the multilib ISO (livedvd-x86-amd64-32ul-11.0.iso) with VirtualBox 4.0.2 r69518 on my Core i7 laptop but could not get Gentoo amd64 to boot; only Gentoo x86 would boot to a working desktop. I posted my problem in Gentoo Bugzilla Bug Report No. 354643. Fernando V. came to my rescue and advised me that the image works much better with QEMU-KVM than VirtualBox. So here is how I got it working in the end with QEMU-KVM following his advice:


For me it works perfectly in vBox.The only thing that i can think of is that i have an AMD processor.May be AMD hardware virtualization in gentoo kernel works better than Intel's one? :idea:
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:01 pm    Post subject: Installation? Reply with quote

Just a trivial question. Has the installation process been changed in any respect in this version? To be honest I kept installing Gentoo from the console over the past few years and judging from the documentation and the Handbook it will stay like that...

PS the Handbook has not been updated since July 19?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

installation is still the same way as in use the handbook. The handbook has not been needed to be update perhaps...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 8:01 pm    Post subject: Boot problem on Lenovo W701 Reply with quote

Hi -
Trying to boot the latest liveDVD on new Lenovo. The 2010 liveDVD boots all the way into X with only one problem... does not seem to recognize the built in Intel NIC. With the latest, the screen goes blank during the module loading process after processing udev events... even when I tried the nofb kernel option. I tried noload=nvidia thinking that might stop loading of the nvidia driver module, but it still goes blank. I also tried nodetect thinking I could load modules manually, but then it can't find the DVD.

Any suggestions appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@skibumwannabe If you also have a built in 'Intel GPU' you should disable it, not sure about the NIC but can you paste 'lspci' output and boot with 'gentoo nox' option.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. :D
GTK applications like Firefox are very pretty integrated into KDE. How was this done?

Is it just the package x11-themes/oxygen-gtk-1.0.2 that deliveres a GTK theme that looks like the used Qt themes or is there more "magic" behind the integration.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alan Turing wrote:
Thanks. :D
GTK applications like Firefox are very pretty integrated into KDE. How was this done?

Is it just the package x11-themes/oxygen-gtk-1.0.2 that deliveres a GTK theme that looks like the used Qt themes or is there more "magic" behind the integration.


just oxygen-gtk
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2011 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd recommend firefox's themes "Oxygen-kde" or (maybe my favourite) "Nuvola".
There is also "Oxygenkde-thunderbird" theme.
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