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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2002 9:32 am    Post subject: microsoft truetype fonts no longer available. Reply with quote

this is bad.
from http://www.microsoft.com/opentype/fontpack/default.htm :
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Microsoft's TrueType core fonts for the Web are no longer available for download from www.microsoft.com.


say bye bye to good looking ttf fonts.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2002 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont have to worry if i have a windows-cd, do I?

now M$ also closes his fonts... damn it!

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2002 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wudmx wrote:
i dont have to worry if i have a windows-cd, do I?


Nope, you don't :) And those fonts are easily found on a windoze system... I guess you'll be drowning of truetype zips on the web in a while :roll:
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2002 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

those fonts are easily found on windows systems... but you gotta have windows, pay the license, etc...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2002 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe someone who has the zips lying round should make an ebuild for them so they are still available to gentoo users... Should not be a great challenge. They might not be offering them for download, but I think they had a freely redistributable licence didn't they?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2002 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's the $ 1000 question. afaik the package didnt include a license file. I have it somewhere on my LFS box at home, I'll check.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2002 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um, anyone have a cached copy of the web page? I seem to remember having to extract some of the packages under windows because they were executable self-extractors, and I think they had a pop up licence agreement of some description...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2002 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imho I dont think that MS truetype fonts should be introuduced into gentoo as an ebuild. Heck i dont think anything that's non-gpl should be avaliable via portage. Even this nvidia drivers. I say mask all the non-gpl software.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2002 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Erukian wrote:
imho I dont think that MS truetype fonts should be introuduced into gentoo as an ebuild. Heck i dont think anything that's non-gpl should be avaliable via portage. Even this nvidia drivers. I say mask all the non-gpl software.


Do you have any reason for your opinion?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2002 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the great things about Gentoo is that it gives you total control over your system, so you are certainly free to install (or avoid installing) any software on your machines that you want. If, on the other hand, you want to make choices that affect other people's freedom to install and use the software that they want, maybe a more ideologically fanatical distribution would be more to your taste than Gentoo.

...so let's return to our regularly scheduled program, which I believe was about using Microsoft's TrueType fonts in Gentoo.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2002 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imagine portage without vim (public domain) or xfree (mit license)...

Anyway... when i emerged kde, the MS web fonts came with one of the packages. I was emerging it from a base system so im not sure which one installs them but i do remember i didn't have to agree to any license in order to download them or install them.

EDIT: I just found this and this from the google cache.

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You may only redistribute the fonts in their original form (.exe or .sit.hqx) and with their original file name from your Web site or intranet site.


Based on that im guessing they can only be distributed from websites, so getting portage to download them off a mirror would be fine (?)
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2002 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a request for help, moved to In Other News.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2002 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ivan wrote:
Erukian wrote:
imho I dont think that MS truetype fonts should be introuduced into gentoo as an ebuild. Heck i dont think anything that's non-gpl should be avaliable via portage. Even this nvidia drivers. I say mask all the non-gpl software.


Do you have any reason for your opinion?


This it totally conjecture, and all appoligies to Erukian if i am wrong, but I think that Erukian is what you would call a "GPL purist". The philosophy being that any software not released under GPL is substandard, not necessarily for technical reasons - but for phylisophical and moral reasons.

KDE uses the QT library - which is not GPL. So I imagine Erukian uses Gnome.

One thing GPL purists will usually not mention is that GPL has it's problems as well. For instance, it is illegal to use GPL code in a BSD project, without changing the license to GPL.

Another thing to note is that the old constrictive QT license has changed since QT 2.2 into a license that should now be acceptable to all but the most ardent GPL enthusiest.

The ramifications of a GPL distribution would be a loss of many of the more successfull open-source applications such as KDE and apache.

There are other worth license schemes. GPL is but one of those schemes.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2002 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My hopes that this thread would wobble its way back onto topic were unfortunately not fulfilled. Locked.
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