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kernelOfTruth
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pjp
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| Dr.Willy wrote: | | After coming to the conclusion that vim is silly I recenty switched to emacs. |
So instead of silly, you went for uncontrollable laughter.
I tried emacs once but couldn't get beyond the requirement for excessive (ab)use of Control.
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shickapooka800
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scanner + handwriting recognition.
eat a dick. |
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John-Boy
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In my COBOL days, found Edit.com pretty good - there are still one or two uses for it even now I find.
In the main Kate - or Notepad ++ (depending on environment)
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Yamakuzure
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On a console:
nano.
It can do everything I need. Learning VIM/emacs would be a waste of time.
...and I have grep, cat, cut, sed and perl for what it can't.
In a DE:
Kate, Geany, Kwrite for editing test files.
Code::Blocks (C/C++) and Eclipse (Perl) as IDEs.
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BoneKracker
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| dmitchell wrote: | | Netbeans is written in Java so naturally it's slow and buggy as hell, but it's still the best IDE I've used. I just wish it had better C++ support. It's like it only supports the parts of C++ with direct analogues in Java; no support for C++1x or even moderately complex template code. |
How do you find Netbeans C/C++ features compare to Eclipse CDT? |
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marens
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| dmitchell wrote: | | Netbeans is written in Java so naturally it's slow and buggy as hell, but it's still the best IDE I've used. I just wish it had better C++ support. It's like it only supports the parts of C++ with direct analogues in Java; no support for C++1x or even moderately complex template code. |
I use Netbeans for coding java and can't say that it is slow or buggy. I haven't written c++ for some time so i can't say anything about the c++ features of netbeans. I'm using it on an ancient single core with 2 gig ram and recognized that the look and feel (mainly the gtk look and feel) you set for swing influences performance quite a bit. So this is what i added to my netbeans_default_options in $whateverinstalldir/etc/netbeans.conf
-J-Dsun.java2d.opengl=true -J-Dswing.aatext=true -J-Dawt.useSystemAAFontSettings=on --laf Metal
aatext/fonts actually hurts performance, too but who wants to work without it these days?
see http://performance.netbeans.org/howto/jvmswitches/ for more details
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vputz
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Emacs: teh winnar (particularly on my kinesis ergo keyboard which has alt and ctrl on thumb-keys). It's a little more awkward on the Pandora where I can't seem to press alt and ctrl at the same time...
But seriously, emacs rocks. I still use vim for memory-constrained fast edits, but for prolonged editing sessions, I wuv teh emacs. |
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tomk
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Dr.Willy
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| pjp wrote: | So instead of silly, you went for uncontrollable laughter.
I tried emacs once but couldn't get beyond the requirement for excessive (ab)use of Control. |
Yeah, I'm not so sure about emacs either.
But at least I'd say emacs had the right idea, creating a highly scriptable editor with different modes for each special task.
Vim just seems to have tried a fundamentally different approach that doesn't offer any benefits.
And excessive use of Ctrl beats excessive use of Esc, if you ask me. |
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Muso
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In defense of Emacs, it's comfortable.
I bought the O'Reilly book on Emacs back when I started getting more heavy into my Linux use (I just picked Emacs over vim arbitrarily) and concentrated on learning one good editor. I can use vim, but my hands goto the Emacs buttons naturally.
Also, Zippy, Eliza, & IRC capabilities... Emacs can be ridiculous 
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Dr.Willy
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| The Earth wrote: | | I can use vim, but my hands goto the Emacs buttons naturally. |
So, you use the default keymappings I take it ...?
| The Earth wrote: | | Zippy, Eliza, & IRC capabilities... Emacs can be ridiculous |
That's actually the one thing about Emacs I find retarded.
If I wanted an irc client, I'd have installed an irc client and not some irc mode for emacs. |
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Muso
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| Dr.Willy wrote: | | The Earth wrote: | | I can use vim, but my hands goto the Emacs buttons naturally. |
So, you use the default keymappings I take it ...? |
Yes. I forced my hands to learn it like it was a Beethoven sonata.
| Dr.Willy wrote: | | The Earth wrote: | | Zippy, Eliza, & IRC capabilities... Emacs can be ridiculous |
That's actually the one thing about Emacs I find retarded.
If I wanted an irc client, I'd have installed an irc client and not some irc mode for emacs. |
Aye. It goes way beyond that even. Chess, web browsing, some other games I can't recall... plus IRC, Eliza, Zippy, etc.
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Shadow Skill
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Emacs and Netbeans if I need project management or have to move between files in different sub-folders often.
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cach0rr0
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| oh come on, I can't be the first person to vote for Notepad. |
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warrens
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Emacs SUCKS!!!! Vim FTW!!!
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Dr.Willy
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| cach0rr0 wrote: | | oh come on, I can't be the first person to vote for Notepad. |
Notepad is the worst editor I can think of.
And I can think of many editors. |
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Mardok45
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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My wrists will thank me for not giving it carpal tunnel when I have been keeping every single finger on the alphabetic keys and not Ctrl or Alt or the mouse.
Thank you Vim! |
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Dr.Willy
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| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Mardok45 wrote: | My wrists will thank me for not giving it carpal tunnel when I have been keeping every single finger on the alphabetic keys and not Ctrl or Alt or the mouse.
Thank you Vim! |
Good, now you just need to fix that issue for every other program you use. |
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aidanjt
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| Dr.Willy wrote: | | Mardok45 wrote: | My wrists will thank me for not giving it carpal tunnel when I have been keeping every single finger on the alphabetic keys and not Ctrl or Alt or the mouse.
Thank you Vim! |
Good, now you just need to fix that issue for every other program you use. |
mutt, vimperator, mplayer, so on, so forth.
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Mardok45
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| AidanJT wrote: | | Dr.Willy wrote: | | Mardok45 wrote: | My wrists will thank me for not giving it carpal tunnel when I have been keeping every single finger on the alphabetic keys and not Ctrl or Alt or the mouse.
Thank you Vim! |
Good, now you just need to fix that issue for every other program you use. |
mutt, vimperator, mplayer, so on, so forth. |
And touchscreens or mouse pads. |
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cach0rr0
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| Dr.Willy wrote: | | cach0rr0 wrote: | | oh come on, I can't be the first person to vote for Notepad. |
Notepad is the worst editor I can think of.
And I can think of many editors. |
i can think of worse
but im surprised im the first to jokingly give it my vote (i normally use vi or nano, simply because I'm accustomed to it, and emacs always seemed a bit less than straightforward) |
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dmitchell
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| BoneKracker wrote: | | How do you find Netbeans C/C++ features compare to Eclipse CDT? |
Haven't used eclipse extensively enough to make a really fair comparison. I will say that eclipse actually feels a little slower than netbeans, but it seems to have the advantage in terms of recognizing valid C++ syntax. To me netbeans has a better look and feel, and seems easier to configure (but leaves a lot to be desired in that department).
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avx
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cream/vim & mcedit. I love vim on my mobile, all this emacsy C-$x would be to complicated.
Sometimes I'm using my tablet and OCR, but I still have to find a good software capable of being trained to my writing  |
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Sir Alaran
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