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Torangan
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 Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:50 am Post subject: X and plasma-desktop have constant high load with KDE 4.3 |
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After updating my system to 4.3 (~AMD64, X.org ati drivers on an AMD 780G board) those two keep the load constantly >1. The whole system is quite sluggish, sometimes there are flickering effects on part of the desktop, session restore at the beginning takes much longer...
According to a tip from a bug report I tried chmod 755 -R /usr/share/kde4/, stopping hal and dbus but so far it doesn't work. All effects and modern 3D desktop stuff should be disabled anyway.
I'm a bit out of ideas short of downgrading to 4.2 again.  |
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Mike Hunt
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| Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| do you have that high load-average if you try xf86-video-ati instead of ati-drivers? |
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Torangan
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| Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| That's what I use. X.org drivers for ati cards, not the binary ones. I could of course try radeonhd. |
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Mike Hunt
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| Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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| If you open a Konsole and look at top is there anything consuming too many resources? |
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Torangan
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| Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Sure, X at 73% and plasma-desktop with 22% - like all the time. I'm just reading a forum right now and have a load average >1.5... |
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Mike Hunt
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| Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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Mine is like this
| Code: | PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
3039 root 20 0 308m 112m 6968 S 1.7 12.8 11:49.17 X
12434 mike 20 0 236m 67m 29m S 1.3 7.7 0:04.38 firefox
3340 mike 20 0 294m 70m 37m S 0.3 8.0 5:01.27 plasma-desktop
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One idea. backup your $HOME/.kde4 folder then nuke it. does a fresh session still go crazy? |
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Torangan
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 12:16 am Post subject: |
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A fresh session does work. But I would be glad if someone knows which file is the culprit, otherwise I'll have to try finding all the bits from kmail, kopete and other tools so they work as before. Well, the price of using unstable... But so far I always got my system working again without too much hassle. No reason to give up hope just yet.  |
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Mike Hunt
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| Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:53 am Post subject: |
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Ah good, glad that worked out. I also needed to nuke my ~/.kde4 folder when I upgraded to 4.3.0.
I don't know exactly what it was either. but all is well now. |
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Massimo B.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:07 pm Post subject: |
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This is, what I always see in top: | Code: | PID USER GROUP PR NI %CPU %MEM RES SWAP TIME+ S COMMAND
9135 massimo massimo 20 0 64.0 1.6 31m 228m 4:06.57 R plasma-desktop |
I just started an empty kde session with no application and no plasmoids. I even disabled all desktop effects. In /var/log/Xorg.0.log I can't see any serious error: | Code: | # grep -e 'EE\|WW' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
Current Operating System: Linux doralin 2.6.31-gentoo-r10-dirty #2 PREEMPT Fri Mar 5 09:14:50 CET 2010 ppc
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/ttf-bitstream-vera" does not exist.
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(WW) RADEON(0): Failed to read PCI ROM!
(WW) RADEON(0): Failed to read PCI ROM!
(WW) RADEON(0): Unrecognized BIOS signature, BIOS data will not be used
(WW) RADEON(0): Video BIOS not detected, using default clock settings!
(WW) RADEON(0): Panel size 1440x960 is derived, this may not be correct.
(WW) RADEON(0): Unknown vendor-specific block 1
(WW) RADEON(0): Unknown vendor-specific block 1
(WW) RADEON(0): WARNING: Using the AGPFastWrite option is not recommended.
(WW) RADEON(0): DRI init changed memory map, adjusting ...
(WW) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION was: 0xbfffb800 is: 0xbfffb800
(WW) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION was: 0xffffffc0 is: 0xc1ffc000
(WW) RADEON(0): Unknown vendor-specific block 1
(WW) RADEON(0): WARNING: Using the AGPFastWrite option is not recommended.
(WW) RADEON(0): DRI init changed memory map, adjusting ...
(WW) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION was: 0xbfffb800 is: 0xbfffb800
(WW) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION was: 0xffffffc0 is: 0xc1ffc000
(EE) XKB: No components provided for device Virtual core keyboard
(WW) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap
(WW) RADEON(0): Unknown vendor-specific block 1 |
KDE4 on PowerBook
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Massimo B.
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| Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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Last update brought this:
| # genlop --list --date 3 days ago |grep x11: |
x11-proto/inputproto-2.0
x11-proto/xextproto-7.1.1
x11-libs/libX11-1.3.3
x11-libs/libXext-1.1.1
x11-libs/libXt-1.0.8
x11-libs/libXi-1.3
x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.6.2
x11-libs/qt-gui-4.6.2
x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.6.2
x11-proto/fixesproto-4.1.1
x11-libs/qt-svg-4.6.2
x11-proto/recordproto-1.14
x11-libs/libXtst-1.1.0
x11-proto/xineramaproto-1.2
x11-libs/libXinerama-1.1
x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.3
x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.1.0
x11-libs/qt-opengl-4.6.2
x11-proto/scrnsaverproto-1.2.0
x11-libs/libXScrnSaver-1.2.0
x11-proto/xf86dgaproto-2.1
x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.6
x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.1.1
x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.12.6
x11-drivers/xf86-input-evdev-2.3.2
x11-drivers/xf86-input-keyboard-1.4.0
x11-drivers/xf86-input-mouse-1.5.0
x11-drivers/xf86-input-synaptics-1.2.1
x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.12.6
x11-apps/xmessage-1.0.3
x11-apps/luit-1.0.5
x11-apps/xinput-1.5.1 |
I even deleted xorg.conf now and tried with a basic setup. X starts fine but after KDE has started, the problem is still the same:
The top 5 cpu applications currently: | Code: | PID USER GROUP PR NI %CPU %MEM RES SWAP TIME+ S COMMAND
9609 massimo massimo 20 0 54.6 1.7 33m 231m 0:49.22 R plasma-desktop
9378 root root 20 0 20.3 2.2 44m 327m 0:21.11 S X
9634 massimo massimo 20 0 8.8 0.8 16m 54m 0:08.29 S kmix
9663 massimo massimo 20 0 8.8 1.1 21m 63m 0:03.22 S konsole
9547 massimo massimo 20 0 5.9 0.1 1216 2368 0:05.86 S dbus-daemon |
| # grep -e 'EE\|WW' /var/log/Xorg.0.log: | Current Operating System: Linux doralin 2.6.32-gentoo-r7-dirty #1 PREEMPT Thu Apr 15 09:58:48 CEST 2010 ppc
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(WW) Warning, couldn't open module fbdev
(EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
(WW) RADEON(0): Failed to read PCI ROM!
(WW) RADEON(0): Failed to read PCI ROM!
(WW) RADEON(0): Unrecognized BIOS signature, BIOS data will not be used
(WW) RADEON(0): Video BIOS not detected, using default clock settings!
(WW) RADEON(0): Panel size 1440x960 is derived, this may not be correct.
(WW) RADEON(0): DRI init changed memory map, adjusting ...
(WW) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION was: 0xbfffb800 is: 0xbfffb800
(WW) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION was: 0xffffffc0 is: 0xc1ffc000
(WW) RADEON(0): DRI init changed memory map, adjusting ...
(WW) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION was: 0xbfffb800 is: 0xbfffb800
(WW) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION was: 0xc1ffc000 is: 0xc1ffc000
(WW) Apple Computer Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad: unable to handle keycode 464
(WW) RADEON(0): DRI init changed memory map, adjusting ...
(WW) RADEON(0): MC_FB_LOCATION was: 0xbfffb800 is: 0xbfffb800
(WW) RADEON(0): MC_AGP_LOCATION was: 0xffffffc0 is: 0xc1ffc000 |
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Massimo B.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:22 am Post subject: |
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No news? Currently I can only use KDE if renice'ing plasma-desktop to 19 which makes task bar and stuff very slow.
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Massimo B.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:30 am Post subject: |
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This is solved for me since 4.3.5->4.4.5.
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iandoug
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| Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Massimo B. wrote: | | This is solved for me since 4.3.5->4.4.5. |
Not solved here, at least on the Nvidia box below (other box is down at the moment).
Can normally 'fix' it by shutting firefox down and waiting a while, but that does not ALWAYS work. Suspect it may be Flash of PDF related?
thanks, Ian
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pingufunkybeat
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| Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:57 am Post subject: |
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Try killing flash (killall nspluginviewer)
Also, try deleting plasmarc, there must be something in there going berserk. |
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iandoug
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| Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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| pingufunkybeat wrote: | Try killing flash (killall nspluginviewer)
Also, try deleting plasmarc, there must be something in there going berserk. |
I deleted plasmarc but it has not helped.
See screenshot : http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/2461/highcpuscreenshot.jpg
(See CPU meters on right of screenshot too)
When X starts it behaves itself but as time goes by and I work, X moves up to the top of the Activity list and stays there. Even after I shut everything down as in the screenshot.
Cheers, Ian
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iandoug
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| Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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This problem appears to have gone away since I upgraded the kernel to .34
At the same time, my CUPS printers disappeared (from gnome apps like firefox or acrobat), though native KDE apps appeared unaffected.
Odd.
cheers, Ian
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iandoug
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| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 6:56 am Post subject: whoops |
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My message above appears to have been premature. The issue persists.
Still unable to track down the culprit, which seems to be one or more of :
firefox
(flash in firefox, which I unfortunately need)
Kmail
Akonadi (for kmail)
Have decided to rebuild system since gcc updated a few weeks back, have done emerge -e system last night and will do emerge -e world tonight and see if that helps ...
cheers, Ian
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iandoug
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| Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:02 pm Post subject: Solved |
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Have finally, I think, found the culprit: the Strigi indexing daemon.
Switched it off in KDE system settings (under Advanced -> Desktop search), and now at last have a well-behaved system again...
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