| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
Hwoarang Developer


Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 701 Location: Leeds, UK
|
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 1:46 pm Post subject: Please test raster engine on Qt packages |
|
|
Hello there,
Qt team is considering to enable raster graphics engine[1] by default on Qt packages ( that is qt-gui ). In order to proceed, we need you to enable this use flag, rebuild qt-gui, as well as testing as many Qt apps as you can. Please report possible bugs related to this graphics backend directly to this thread or gentoo bugzilla
Additionally, if you don't feel like recompiling the whole qt-gui module, you can simply test the raster engine by adding | Code: | | -graphicssystem raster | when launching a Qt application.
e.g.:
| Code: | | qmpdclient -graphicssystem raster |
[1]: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/10/22/so-long-and-thanks-for-the-blit/
Thank you in advanced
The Qt team |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Herring42 Guru


Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 361 Location: Buckinghamshire
|
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 3:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
No problems (yet) with gwenview -graphicssystem raster
For reference, gwenview -graphicssystem opengl is fine for graphics, but the text is garbled.
I'll recompile qt-gui, and see how we go  _________________ "The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is difficult
to determine whether or not they are genuine." -- Abraham Lincoln |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
tkmorris n00b

Joined: 22 Oct 2008 Posts: 5
|
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Plasma-desktop isn't usable with OpenGL, but works with raster. KMess works better with OpenGL, still has issues with text, but raster is fine. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
RealNC Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 147
|
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:21 pm Post subject: Re: Please test raster engine on Qt packages |
|
|
That blog entry is over a year old (October 22, 2008). Is the info there still true for Qt 4.6.x?
Edit:
KDevelop recently switched from forcing raster to whatever the default is on a system with the explanation being that "-graphicssystem native" is not slower than raster anymore. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Ant P. Veteran

Joined: 18 Apr 2009 Posts: 1922 Location: UK
|
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:32 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I've had the raster useflag turned on for months with no problems.
Also I just tried opening qgit with opengl; it didn't crash but it's far too slow to be of any use. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Hwoarang Developer


Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 701 Location: Leeds, UK
|
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: Please test raster engine on Qt packages |
|
|
| RealNC wrote: |
That blog entry is over a year old (October 22, 2008). Is the info there still true for Qt 4.6.x?
|
Ι know it is one year old. I didnt post the link for the performance results as I assume that they wont be the same in Qt-4.6.X. I posted that link so you can understand what raster engine is and how it works in case you haven't heard it before |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
RealNC Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 147
|
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:42 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I know what raster is. The question is simply whether it has the same benefits with recent Qt version as it had in the past. If not, there's no point in switching to it by default.
Edit:
I've rebuilt qt-gui with raster and restarted KDE. There doesn't seem to be any breakage. Everything looks and behaves the same as before. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
rahulthewall Veteran


Joined: 01 Nov 2007 Posts: 1264 Location: Zürich
|
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:52 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Recompiling qt-gui now. Oh, and the graphicssystem opengl does not work for any app for me. Raster seems to work fine. Let's see how this goes. _________________ Who shall guard the guards? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
RealNC Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 147
|
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:21 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I found a problem with raster. Opening a big file in Qt Creator and scrolling up/down very fast results in X using 35-40% CPU and the qtcreator process uses 15%.
With "-graphicssystem native" X uses 15-20% CPU and qtcreator 6-9%.
Raster stresses the CPU twice as much as native. Doesn't look too good to me  |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Hwoarang Developer


Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 701 Location: Leeds, UK
|
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:25 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| which Qt version? 4.6.2? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
RealNC Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 147
|
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:30 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Yes, 4.6.2. I'm on AMD64.
| Code: | | [ebuild R ] x11-libs/qt-gui-4.6.2 USE="accessibility dbus exceptions glib mng qt3support raster tiff (-aqua) -cups -debug -gtk -nas -nis -pch -xinerama" |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
rahulthewall Veteran


Joined: 01 Nov 2007 Posts: 1264 Location: Zürich
|
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:34 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Can't notice any difference so far. (~x86 here) _________________ Who shall guard the guards? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
RealNC Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 147
|
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:50 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Qt Designer is pretty much the only app where I can reproduce this though. Maybe a false alert. I panicked because Qt Creator was the first thing I tried to test with raster  |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Etal Veteran


Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 1633
|
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:36 am Post subject: |
|
|
With the raster engine, I can now visit the new kde.org with Konqueror without it lagging horribly
Recompiling qt-gui now  |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
jensp n00b

Joined: 06 Dec 2009 Posts: 4
|
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Have been running qt-gui with raster useflag for quite a while now, haven't noticed any bugs, but didn't feel any speedup either. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Link31 Apprentice

Joined: 17 Apr 2006 Posts: 200 Location: France
|
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:15 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I'm currently running with the raster useflag enabled on Qt 4.6.0 and KDE 4.3.4 (w/ crappy fglrx drivers).
Most apps feel much faster (especially Okular and to a lesser extent Konqueror). They seem to use a lot of memory after having run for a long time, but I'm not really sure about how this compares to the "native" renderer.
However, I get some graphical corruptions with Konqueror : screenshot.
BTW, I've also tried the "opengl" renderer: it is very slow, the display is corrupted (with black rectangles or triangles that don't paint synchronously) and often crashes the whole application... |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
RealNC Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 13 Apr 2008 Posts: 147
|
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:18 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| The OpenGL renderer is known not to work, so you don't need to test that actually. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Etal Veteran


Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 1633
|
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 4:08 am Post subject: |
|
|
| I get some minor problems with Konqueror, too. For me, the text sometimes gets blurred, and sometimes the links or images move by a pixel when hovered. Nothing serious, though. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
krigstask n00b


Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 40 Location: Rampova, Inkerimaa, Venämaa
|
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:49 am Post subject: |
|
|
Everything seems to work properly here after qt-gui re-emerging. This includes:
- www-client/arora
- net-im/psi
- kde-misc/krusader
- dev-util/eric
- dev-util/qtcreator
- kde-base/okular
- net-p2p/transmission
That's more or less extensively used apps, I'll keep eyes open. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
krigstask n00b


Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 40 Location: Rampova, Inkerimaa, Venämaa
|
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
All menus drawn by Qt in www-client/opera lacks icons. Should I report it to bugzilla?
opera -graphicssystem native works fine. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
duryodhana n00b

Joined: 13 Jan 2008 Posts: 65
|
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:38 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Here, with the raster useflag turned on, applications run much faster the difference is notable in Kgeography for example. Everything works properly. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Hwoarang Developer


Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 701 Location: Leeds, UK
|
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:04 am Post subject: |
|
|
| krigstask wrote: | All menus drawn by Qt in www-client/opera lacks icons. Should I report it to bugzilla?
opera -graphicssystem native works fine. |
Yes please. We will soon start a tracker to monitor all the raster bugs |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
krigstask n00b


Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 40 Location: Rampova, Inkerimaa, Venämaa
|
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:16 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Hwoarang wrote: | | Yes please. We will soon start a tracker to monitor all the raster bugs |
Done. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Herring42 Guru


Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 361 Location: Buckinghamshire
|
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 8:32 am Post subject: |
|
|
OpenOffice 3.2.0 crashes on startup _________________ "The problem with quotes on the internet is that it is difficult
to determine whether or not they are genuine." -- Abraham Lincoln |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Hwoarang Developer


Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 701 Location: Leeds, UK
|
Posted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:01 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Thank you both |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
|