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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:20 am    Post subject: Swiss Constitutionally Ban Muslim Minarets Reply with quote

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The "Yes" vote - to amend the constitution in favor of banning minarets - stunned experts who had predicted the measure would be rejected. It also sent ripples of anxiety across the country's Muslim community, which makes up about six percent of Switzerland's population.

Some 57.5 percent of voters backed the initiative, which was championed by the nationalist Swiss People's Party. The party argues that minarets are a symbol of Islamic political power. There are only four minarets in Switzerland and they will not be affected by the ban.

Public opinion polls ahead of the election predicted that the measure would be rejected, and the Swiss government had urged citizens to vote against it. Foreign Minister Micheline Calmy-Rey said she was shocked by the outcome and deeply regrets it.

But on the streets of one Swiss town - Gstaad - the reaction was mixed. Anton Seil said that Muslims living in Switzerland need to adapt to Swiss customs. If he were in another country, Seil said, he would not be allowed to build a church. But another Swiss, Anne-Marie Birnsteil, expressed dismay at the vote. Birnsteil said she is very disappointed and that she is afraid of the consequences.

Human rights groups say a ban against minaret construction violates freedom of expression. Many Muslims have expressed concern the vote could resonate across Europe, including in neighboring France - home to about five million Muslims, Western Europe's largest Islamic community.

http://www1.voanews.com/english/news/europe/Swiss-Vote-to-Ban-Islamic-Minarets-78106822.html
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What were you expecting? It's Europe.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be interesting to see what would happen if a similar referendum occurred elsewhere, here for example. It's a moot point of course, wouldn't happen.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It would be interesting to see what would happen if a similar referendum occurred elsewhere, here for example. It's a moot point of course, wouldn't happen.

You can hope, but don't say it out loud, or you'll get put on a list.

Al Jazeera's take on this (under the interesting choice of title: Swiss brace for minaret backlash
The "backlash" so far seems to be about a hundred people, some of whom lit candles.
http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/2009/11/200911304239627876.html


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It would be interesting to see what would happen if a similar referendum occurred elsewhere, here for example. It's a moot point of course, wouldn't happen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Oldham_race_riots
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Oldham_race_riots



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Oldham_race_riots

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It seems like political correctness is completely out of hand in Britain, Germany, Sweden, the Netherlands, etc.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It would be interesting to see what would happen if a similar referendum occurred elsewhere, here for example. It's a moot point of course, wouldn't happen.
Which way would you vote, in such a referendum? You don't have a problem with minarets, do you?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Minarets are gay.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Minarets are gay.
Is that a problem?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Minarets are gay.
Is that a problem?

By definition.

I don't mean "gay gay", I mean "gay".

You can't have minarets popping up all over Europe. It clashes with the architecture.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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BoneKracker wrote:
Minarets are gay.
Is that a problem?


Gay architecture should be avoided. We want our finest buildings to produce equally brilliant offspring.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean, come on now. Can you get any gayer than that?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I mean, come on now. Can you get any gayer than that?


That's Fabulous!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I mean, come on now. Can you get any gayer than that?


That's Fabulous!
That's CGI.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Chopinzee wrote:
BoneKracker wrote:
I mean, come on now. Can you get any gayer than that?


That's Fabulous!
That's CGI.


Damn, I thought it was LEGOs.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chopinzee wrote:
notageek wrote:
Chopinzee wrote:
BoneKracker wrote:
I mean, come on now. Can you get any gayer than that?


That's Fabulous!
That's CGI.


Damn, I thought it was LEGOs.
This is made of LEGOs.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mo' bettah LEGOs
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Mo' bettah LEGOs
Awesome!

There is a video on YouTube where a guy made a stop motion film on LEGOs. Its great. Try and search it. (I'm at work -- no access to YouTube :()
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a few, but these 3 seemed to be the best quality :

8 bit trip
Super Mario Lego
Millenium Falcon

ty for the heads up :)
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its the "8 Bit Trip". Not sure if you'd like it :D, its awesome!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Its the "8 Bit Trip". Not sure if you'd like it :D, its awesome!


Agreed.

It's the best of the lot.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I mean, come on now. Can you get any gayer than that?


Epcot Center?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I mean, come on now. Can you get any gayer than that?
There are certainly more flamboyant structures.
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