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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 7:00 am    Post subject: gentoo hppa Reply with quote

hi,

i try to boot a HP 715/64. cd boot works fine, but the autodetection stops
with

Code:
--- Beginning storage detection
--- Detected 53c700 hardware
--- Scanning for NCR53c406a


than the systems stops.
i uesed the second experimental live cd image. i think ill try it with the other one.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 2:52 pm    Post subject: re: gentoo hppa Reply with quote

I have the same problem on a HP Visualize C200 with Beta 2..

Beta 1 stops with stacktrace :-(

Any suggestions?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I just tried it out on a 735/99 and got the CD booted on a Serial Console, but got "Invalid Argument" when trying to mount the CD. I tried mounting it manually as well, still no luck.

I'm really interested in Gentoo on HPPA, if anyone has any suggestions, please let me know.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scratch that, I got it going now. Apparently it didn't like either a.) my Apple CD150 or b.) the 50-25 converter it was on.

Anyhow, both my 715/100XC and my 735/99 have booted the LiveCD and gotten at least into the init scripts.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 11:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey

i got an hp visualize c240 here, and an apollo 735/99

gonna try installing gentoo on the 735 later this week i think


is there a way to get 64bit userland with emerge on the c240 ?
that would be neat ^_^
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cnf wrote:
hey

i got an hp visualize c240 here, and an apollo 735/99

gonna try installing gentoo on the 735 later this week i think


is there a way to get 64bit userland with emerge on the c240 ?
that would be neat ^_^


I'm going to get a C240 soon. strange.

As far as the 735 goes, I haven't figured it all out yet. It locks up at the "Scambling root password" stage, and I'm not real sure what that means.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cnf wrote:
hey

i got an hp visualize c240 here, and an apollo 735/99

gonna try installing gentoo on the 735 later this week i think


is there a way to get 64bit userland with emerge on the c240 ?
that would be neat ^_^


I've got a C180, but it seems there's no way to get a 64bit userland :-(

I've tried with theese parameters in make.conf:

CHOST="hppa2.0-unknown-linux-gnu"
and
CFLAGS="-march=2.0 -O3 -pipe -mschedule=8000"

but it fails to compile groff.... (well, don't know if it's an optimization issue or not, anyone had some luck?)

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For 64 bit stuff, don't you need to specify -m64? and point to the 64bit libraries?


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2003 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dweigert wrote:
For 64 bit stuff, don't you need to specify -m64? and point to the 64bit libraries?


Dan


Uh... I found this:
http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc-3.2.2/gcc/HPPA-Options.html#HPPA%20Options

they don't talk about -m64 on hppa options.
this switch is supported only "AMD x86-64 processors in 64-bit environments"

anyway, I wasn't able to build even a cross compiler for hppa2.0-unknown-linux-gnu or hppa64-unknown-linux-gnu (which should be both supported)... but perhaps I'm dumb ;)

A question.

What's the difference between CHOST and CFLAGS?
I mean, should CHOST be set to the arch the compiler runs on, or should it be set to the arch I want the compiler be generated (and then the arch it wil run on....).

uh... I feel dumber :lol:
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2003 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shodan wrote:

I've got a C180, but it seems there's no way to get a 64bit userland :-(

I've tried with theese parameters in make.conf:

CHOST="hppa2.0-unknown-linux-gnu"
and
CFLAGS="-march=2.0 -O3 -pipe -mschedule=8000"

but it fails to compile groff.... (well, don't know if it's an optimization issue or not, anyone had some luck?)


Yep I have exactly the same problem also with a C180 and the same CHOSTS & CFLAGS... I cant seem to find anyone outside of the Gentoo comunity that has the same problem, might it be a bug in the ebuild?
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2003 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK.... I have tried it with the following CHOSTS & CFLAGS

CHOSTS="hppa2.0-unknown-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-march=2.0 -O3 -pipe -mschedule=8000" - Groff Fails to build
CHOSTS="hppa1.1-unknown-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-march=1.1 -O3 -pipe -mschedule=8000" - Man Fails to Build
CHOSTS="hppa1.0-unknown-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-march=1.0 -O3 -pipe -mschedule=8000" - Groff Fails to Build
CHOSTS="hppa1.1-unknown-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-march=1.1 -O3 -pipe -mschedule=700" - Groff Fails to Build
CHOSTS="hppa1.0-unknown-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-march=1.0 -O3 -pipe -mschedule=700" - Groff Fails to Build
No changes to make.conf (defaults I assume) - Man fails to Build

Each time I rebooted, remounted the partitions deleted the contents and started from stage 1 again. Any ideas anyone?
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2003 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a visualize J5600 and it hangs at the scanning for aha1740...
I have tried to install on a d-class 9000. Getting this server up is very important for work we are going to use it for a database server and do not have a copy of hpux and do not have 3000 to spend on a copy. If someone could please help me.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2003 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey

i want to run a database server on the C240

so i really want it 64bit :-)

anyone know if i can get mysql/postgresql running in 64bit on hppa with gentoo ?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

owkay

got gentoo installed on my c240

but now its useless because the sec i log in, my shell freezes, and about 5 minutes later, the whole machine freezes ...

same happenes if i try to boot from cd, and chroot to it

i am straight out of ideas ...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cnf wrote:

got gentoo installed on my c240

but now its useless because the sec i log in, my shell freezes, and about 5 minutes later, the whole machine freezes ...

same happenes if i try to boot from cd, and chroot to it



Have you managed to install a 64bit userland and kernel?

Well... but... if the workstation freezes even when you boot from cd... isn't there some (new) hw related problem?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shodan wrote:

Well... but... if the workstation freezes even when you boot from cd... isn't there some (new) hw related problem?


I have the exact same problem, Gentoo crashes sometimes during boot , sometimes during "emerge sync", sometimes when compiling programs...
I've checked the disks, they are fine and, please don't kill me for this, tried Debian and HP-UX on this machine too without any problems...
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cnf wrote:
is there a way to get 64bit userland with emerge on the c240 ?
that would be neat ^_^


64 bit user land for Linux on HP-PA machines is a long way away. The question has come up several times on parisc-linux.org. See the thread beginning with

http://lists.parisc-linux.org/pipermail/parisc-linux/2003-January/018911.html

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