Changing Gnome2 WM !?

McManus · Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2002 5:56 pm Post subject: Changing Gnome2 WM !?

I'm sure someone has posted this before, but I searched and can't seem to find it, so oh well (sorry).

I'm using 1.3b (sooooo nice... and fast, too!) and i emerged Gnome2 as well as a lot of the other optional packages, like the ctrl panel, etc. But a lot of links are missing (like nautilus, etc. I have to run it manually). However, I can't seem to find ANY option to change the WM (I have fluxbox and Sawfish emerged in as well). Control Panel (as a whole, not individual components) seems to be "missing". Any clues on what I did wrong?
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tsuru · Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2002 6:32 pm Post subject:

Changing the WM in Gnome2 is a little difficult... I was talking to some of the ops on #gentoo on irc.openprojects.net a while ago and they had a command line ...er command that looked clean but didn't work for me....so this is what I did:

Go to Applications> Desktop Preferences> Advanced> Session Properties and Startup Programs.

From here you can remove metacity (might also require a killall metacity from the term) and then just start your preferred wm. Save your session and that should do it...

It might be handy to open your terminal and postion it before you kill metacity

Spark · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 30 Jun 2002 Posts: 87

Yes, just kill the current WM, load the new one, then select "save current setup" at logout or use the session properties. Control-Center doesn't exist for 2.0 and will be integrated into Nautilus later. So if you install Control-Center, it's for Gnome 1.x (that is usefull to change Gtk1 themes though).

McManus · Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2002 7:50 pm Post subject:

oops, shoulda checked for a desktop forum before I posted... :grin:

thanks for the help! will try it when I get home from work&class tonight.
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McManus · Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2002 7:54 pm Post subject:

honestly, how can they call this the official release of Gnome2 ? It is sooooo broken. (I know more ppl have said this is a "debug" release, but that's BS) Get it working before you OFFICIALLY release it, please?

I'm sorry, but Gnome2 isn't what I was expecting it to be. Gnome 1.4 was great and I loved it... but then KDE3 came along and rocked my world. Since then, I've been hoping Gnome2 would be "the one", which was perfect and had all its "issues" fixed/worked-out so it could be good competition to KDE3 (I love using Gnome with Fluxbox). I am rather disappointed.

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Manny Calavera · Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2002 8:00 pm Post subject:

don't complain, have you never heard of .0 releaes? :wink:

oh, almost forgot the quick&dirty fix:
edit your ~/.bashrc
and insert

McManus · Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2002 9:50 pm Post subject:

wonderful, manny! thx!

btw, nice Avatar :-)

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Spark · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 30 Jun 2002 Posts: 87

Gnome 2 is not at all broken for me. So what. Gnome is more than the desktop, it's more a development framework and this _is_ stable (besides of details and GnomeVFS). Now they need to port the stuff but that wouldn't happen if they would never release the plattform. See? Chicken and egg problem. KDE 2.0 had the same problem (and crashed all the time). You have to start somewhere.

Sequentious · Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2002 3:34 am Post subject:

what i did was run `gconf-editor` and navigate to "/desktop/gnome/applications/window_manager" and change the value for 'default' to "/usr/bin/sawfish". i found that i had to use the `sawfish-ui` tool to name my six workspaces ("one", "two" ...) or it wouldnt remember i had six when i restarted gnome.
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McManus · Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2002 5:08 am Post subject:

Sequentious · Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2002 5:21 am Post subject:

Spark · Tux's lil' helper Joined: 30 Jun 2002 Posts: 87

therion12 · n00b Joined: 18 Jun 2002 Posts: 41 Location: Chicago, IL

Thats very true, while KDE 3.0 is basically a eye-cany upgrade, gnome2 is more than just that. It has new apps etc for it. I found no option to switch the window manager in gnome2 but using the Session properties screen to remove metacity and then add sawfish and changing the respawn mode just as effective.

Also, for me gnome2 dispite all the new antialiasing and eye candy is still faster than Gnome 1.4 in starting programs and stuff. So far i didn't find any glitch in gnome other than the tiny GDM glitch which was recently fixed (you couldnt change to the happy gnome theme of gdm).

line72 · Apprentice Joined: 13 Jun 2002 Posts: 212

i find gnome2 faster and much nicer looking. The only thing i hate is the lack of configuration. And I hate Gconf-editor. It's nice to have when you need to do some extra tweaking, but there should be all the options times 10 from the the gnome-1.4 control center.