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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 6:09 pm    Post subject: Network Reply with quote

How would I set up my computer so I can access it from a different pc through telnet
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please, please, please don't use telnet. Use SSH, it's a million times better. Just emerge openssh and rc-update add sshd default.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm new to this after I emerge and set it up for default, then is it all set up for me to logon
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 6:38 pm    Post subject: SSH Reply with quote

Of course you can't log in with an ordinary telnet client if you rely on SSH.
you have to install a SSH client :-)
For Linux, you should look for openSSH from the reliable openBSD team, for win32 clients I can recommend Putty.
Make sure you never mention telnet again :wink:
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for your help and I will make sure not to mention telnet again
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2002 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fuzz wrote:
I'm new to this after I emerge and set it up for default, then is it all set up for me to logon


You will first need to reboot; or, if you don't want to reboot you can type this:

Code:
/etc/init.d/sshd start


You don't have to type this all the time only when you first install the package (as long as you followed dice's advice by using rc-update).
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 28, 2002 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fuzz wrote:
thanks for your help and I will make sure not to mention telnet again


Just as a bit of explanation; the reason people hate telnet so is because it passes everything around in clear text, including your username and password. Thus, it's very susceptible to sniffing when you pass credentials over a public network (such as the internet).

SSH, on the other hand, encrypts everything from point-to-point, and is thus much more secure.

FTP is another protocol that sucks for the same reasons that telnet does -- SCP, rsync and/or SFTP are all good alternatives to FTP.

--kurt
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 4:58 am    Post subject: Re: SSH Reply with quote

bbibber wrote:
... Make sure you never mention telnet again :wink:


telnet telnet telnet telnet telnet :twisted:

Don't know of any MUDs that use ssh. The one I play doesn't anyhow. But, you're probably referring to running the server.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arrrrgh... That was me.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 11:56 am    Post subject: Re: SSH Reply with quote

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bbibber wrote:
Don't know of any MUDs that use ssh. The one I play doesn't anyhow. But, you're probably referring to running the server.


That doesn't mean telnet sucks any less. It's still an inherently insecure protocol that was designed in a different age for a different type of user.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 1:04 pm    Post subject: But what about Kerberos? Reply with quote

Telnet sucks? Not if you use kerberised telnet (and Kerberos is a better solution for some than SSH).
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 1:25 pm    Post subject: Re: But what about Kerberos? Reply with quote

kerframil wrote:
Telnet sucks? Not if you use kerberised telnet (and Kerberos is a better solution for some than SSH).


Sure -- you could also run telnet over an ssh tunnel or IPSec VPN and get the same result. The point is, however, that as a default protocol, telnet sucks.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Telnet security may suck, the protocol itself is just fine :).
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