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nightmorph
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This thread is for discussion of the November issue of the Gentoo Monthly Newsletter. We hope you enjoyed reading it!
If you liked a certain article or felt that the GMN was published with something that we could do without, let us know. You can also put your comments and suggestions on how you think the next GMN should be.
The latest issue may not appear on the webnodes immediately, so please be patient.
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arnvidr
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 8:30 am Post subject: |
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You should have waited one day and called it December. Then you would be ahead! 
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Guayasil
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Nice to see you again 
Anyway: IMHO if it's impossible to publish a GMN as in October a short note (a GMN "placeholder") should be placed at main Gentoo website. Just to show that it's up and running. |
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Guayasil
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:15 am Post subject: |
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| arnvidr wrote: | | You should have waited one day and called it December. Then you would be ahead! |
GMN is always published on 29th or 30th... IMO a usual thing. |
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zaccret
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Congratulations ! I really enjoyed this november newsletter ! I especially liked :- "Kernel team looking for help" : I don't know if this is a coincidence, but we talked a lot about how to keep users aware of Gentoo project needs in this forum. It is really nice to see that you listened to all the discussion in this forum. Thank you.
- "Trustees/Council Meeting Summary" : I find it interesting to see what is going on in the Gentoo project/foundation
- "Coming Up" : I find it interesting to see what will going on next month
- "Gentoo Wiki Returns!" : it was really nice to talk about a work from/for Gentoo users (actually the greatest work from users) and to tell us about the discussion on an "official" wiki.
- "Planet Gentoo" : a nice summary of Planet Gentoo articles. Really interesting for those who don't know the Planet Gentoo link (I didn't know Planet Gentoo 6 months ago)
Thanks again ! Really nice job! 
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gentoo-dev
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| Guayasil wrote: | | arnvidr wrote: | | You should have waited one day and called it December. Then you would be ahead! :D |
GMN is always published on 29th or 30th... IMO a usual thing. |
This one was published in December: | cvs wrote: | Revision 1.1 - (view) (download) (as text) (annotate) - [select for diffs]
Mon Dec 1 06:39:26 2008 UTC (4 hours, 54 minutes ago) by nightmorph |
http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/xml/htdocs/news/en/gmn/20081130-newsletter.xml?rev=1.1&view=log
BTW | Code: | Code Listing 4.1: Sample screen script
#!/usr/local/bin/screen |
Maybe let people know this is not the right path, you never know, a few might still be running Gentoo :)
Not on Gentoo or linux atm but I think screen would be in /usr/bin/ and not in local
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Captain Newbie
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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Good to see you all!
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nightmorph
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| gentoo-dev wrote: | | This one was published in December |
Nope, only in that timezone. Where I live, I still had some hours of November remaining. If it's November in my timezone, that's what counts when I publish it.
| Quote: | Maybe let people know this is not the right path, you never know, a few might still be running Gentoo
Not on Gentoo or linux atm but I think screen would be in /usr/bin/ and not in local |
Actually, that tip was sent in by a Gentoo user, but I went ahead and changed it to the usual location for the screen executable.
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KillerX
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:11 am Post subject: |
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Thanks nightmorph for pulling this great issue together!
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:50 am Post subject: |
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| zaccret wrote: |
- "Planet Gentoo" : a nice summary of Planet Gentoo articles. Really interesting for those who don't know the Planet Gentoo link (I didn't know Planet Gentoo 6 months ago)
Thanks again ! Really nice job! |
As I do the Planet summary: Thanks.
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gcombe74
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Great newsletter... but plz in the future put something out there for when nothing will be posted... makes you wonder what state things are in!
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:03 am Post subject: |
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"Kernel team looking for help"
Although I'm not a hardcore C developer, I'm going to accept this challenge. That might be a great opportunity to learn something, plus giving back a bit of everything I got from this amazing Linux distro and maybe someday become a "real" developer.
By the way, I'm new here, for more than a year I'm using Gentoo but it's my first post here.
Regards.
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monsm
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| Posted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: |
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| sparc86 wrote: | "Kernel team looking for help"
Although I'm not a hardcore C developer, I'm going to accept this challenge. That might be a great opportunity to learn something, plus giving back a bit of everything I got from this amazing Linux distro and maybe someday become a "real" developer.
By the way, I'm new here, for more than a year I'm using Gentoo but it's my first post here.
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That is certainly a very good start. Good luck with the kernel team and happy learning!
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| Glad to see GMN back. |
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It's been so long, thought gentoo.org was dead!
The fact there was no odor should have given me a clue it was still alive.
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Jim6
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First off, I really like these more regular (yes, I said it!) Monthly newsletters - you guys are doing a great job with them.
I'd like to see some more info on package removals other than "name & who'se doing it". I'm sure that there's a justification for each removal somewhere in BugZilla - why not have the removers put it in into that table? (or better: a link to the removal bug / GPNL page)
EDIT: Actually, the description of the package (emerge -s) would be nice to see too.
EDIT2: Would it be possible to have a 'suggested alternative' field as well?
I've been thinking about this for a while (ever since my beloved fsv was removed) that it'd be awesome if portage warned you about impending removals of packages that you have installed when you sync, linked you to the bugzilla, and encouraged you to fix whatever is getting it removed from portage (or to start maintaining it).
Nothing is worse than a world upgrade and finding that a package you use is gone from the tree... |
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nightmorph
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| Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:20 am Post subject: |
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| Jim6 wrote: | | I'd like to see some more info on package removals other than "name & who'se doing it". I'm sure that there's a justification for each removal somewhere in BugZilla - why not have the removers put it in into that table? (or better: a link to the removal bug / GPNL page) |
I don't think this is actually possible. We take the raw content from automated email sent out by Infrastructure, which as far as I know just parses the commit logs to generate the raw format. We then apply our own scripts to the raw email to generate the XML that we paste into the newsletter. It's completely automated, except for the gruntwork of running the script and copy/pasting.
| Quote: | EDIT: Actually, the description of the package (emerge -s) would be nice to see too.
EDIT2: Would it be possible to have a 'suggested alternative' field as well? |
Same answer for these, I'm afraid. Besides, if you're curious about a package, just run emerge -s on the package yourself. Get to know your tree and get comfy with it. (Or better yet emerge eix, then run eix foo). I suppose you could always just browse the same category as the package in question (eix -C category-name). Also, you may have noticed a link in the tables to the packages.gentoo.org page -- one of the fields says "Similar." This link will be working again at some point.
| Quote: | | I've been thinking about this for a while (ever since my beloved fsv was removed) that it'd be awesome if portage warned you about impending removals of packages that you have installed when you sync, linked you to the bugzilla, and encouraged you to fix whatever is getting it removed from portage (or to start maintaining it). |
Well, we kind of already do it. Packages are first masked before they're removed entirely. That's your warning. Now it's up to you to read the package.mask entry for why it was removed. There's a bug link, GLSA number, and other notes on why the package was masked pending removal. Also, we send out so-called "last rites" emails to the gentoo-dev-announce list every time a package is put on life support.
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