Gentoo Forums
Gentoo Forums
Gentoo Forums
Quick Search: in
Where's Pidgin? [SOLVED]
View unanswered posts
View posts from last 24 hours

 
Reply to topic    Gentoo Forums Forum Index Duplicate Threads
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
audiodef
Watchman
Watchman


Joined: 06 Jul 2005
Posts: 5263

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:04 pm    Post subject: Where's Pidgin? [SOLVED] Reply with quote

I just emerged pidgin without any errors, but "pidgin" is not found. It's not in /usr/bin as the man page says it should be. What happened?

(I have KDE. I don't think that should stop pidgin from actually being there whether it runs or not.... Right?)
_________________
Gentoo Studio: http://gentoostudio.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/gentoostudio
G+: https://plus.google.com/113947758237122861689/posts
Pappy's Kernel Seeds: http://kernel-seeds.org


Last edited by audiodef on Fri May 16, 2008 12:23 am; edited 2 times in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MostAwesomeDude
Guru
Guru


Joined: 12 Aug 2007
Posts: 373

PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Add gtk to your USE flags. Alternatively, type "finch" at a command prompt.
_________________
Don't believe the "n00b" under my name.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
audiodef
Watchman
Watchman


Joined: 06 Jul 2005
Posts: 5263

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that worked. Thank you, O MostAwesomeDude.

(Sorry, couldn't resist. The thanks is sincere).
_________________
Gentoo Studio: http://gentoostudio.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/gentoostudio
G+: https://plus.google.com/113947758237122861689/posts
Pappy's Kernel Seeds: http://kernel-seeds.org
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
MostAwesomeDude
Guru
Guru


Joined: 12 Aug 2007
Posts: 373

PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Happy to help.
_________________
Don't believe the "n00b" under my name.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Punchcutter
Apprentice
Apprentice


Joined: 11 Feb 2007
Posts: 228

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would call this a thoroughly b0rk3n ebuild! The USE flags are only supposed to override optional functionality! If GTK is required for pidgin, then the lack of a USE flag should not prevent it from building.

But the worst thing is that portage completes its work with absolutely no sign that anything is wrong, so of course the user has no reason to think that there was a problem with dependencies. If the ebuild is going to insist on USE="gtk", then it should cause emerge to crap out with an error to this effect.

I'll see if I can find out who the package maintainer is and lodge a formal complaint :?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
tarpman
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 04 Nov 2004
Posts: 1083
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GTK is not required; finch is a perfectly valid frontend. It's not the package maintainer's fault if you have your USE flags set incorrectly. If the inconvenience of having to configure them manually annoys you, consider switching to a desktop profile, which will have many USE flags that are commonly used on a desktop system, such as gtk, set by default.

Code:
eselect profile list
eselect profile set default/linux/x86/2008.0/desktop

_________________
Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Punchcutter
Apprentice
Apprentice


Joined: 11 Feb 2007
Posts: 228

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I stand by my complaint. I normally have -gtk set because I use mostly kde apps. This is a perfectly reasonable setup. Furthermore, I would like to point out that the the package is called "pidgin", not "finch". If I build "pidgin", and emerge doesn't emit any complaints or warnings, and all I get out is finch, and no pidgin, that, I put to you sir, is nonsensical behavior. How am I even to know that finch exists, unless I've carefully read over the project website, where it is mentioned as little more than a footnote?

I have no problem making special settings to build software, but I expect to be told if my current settings are preventing me from getting what I'm (quite naturally) expecting to get. Perhaps there should be separate ebuilds for the two apps.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
tarpman
Veteran
Veteran


Joined: 04 Nov 2004
Posts: 1083
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough. You know the technical side of it better than I'd assumed (for which I apologize); at this point it's pretty much a difference of opinion. My opinion is that pidgin is an OK name for a package containing libpurple and several frontends to it (as opposed to splitting them into separate packages), since pidgin is the most popular frontend and will be an artifact when the package is built with default settings.

At any rate I doubt you'd get very far filing a bug, as the package being named this way in the first place implies that the maintainer shares my view on the situation. You might, however, succeed in getting him to add some form of einfo or ewarn at the beginning, if the pidgin frontend is not going to be built.
_________________
Saving the world, one kilobyte at a time.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Punchcutter
Apprentice
Apprentice


Joined: 11 Feb 2007
Posts: 228

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tarpman wrote:
You know the technical side of it better than I'd assumed (for which I apologize)

Apology accepted - note that n00b in the forum does not equal n00b overall :)

Quote:
You might, however, succeed in getting him to add some form of einfo or ewarn at the beginning, if the pidgin frontend is not going to be built.

That's all I expect, really (although at the end would be more useful than at the beginning).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
tgR10
Apprentice
Apprentice


Joined: 23 Oct 2007
Posts: 262
Location: caly ten ambaras

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can build pidgin with -gtk and +ncurses, then you don't have pidgin binary ... but still got pidgin, console version ;-)
don't remember the name atm but it's not a pidgin :)
_________________
"bo kto ma racje ? ten kto z bliska zobaczy"
"moge nie wiedziec,wchlaniam niewiedze z malych torebek"
http://i12.tinypic.com/4pow0mu.png
http://userbar.tgr.debil.eu/userbar.jpg
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
audiodef
Watchman
Watchman


Joined: 06 Jul 2005
Posts: 5263

PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tgR10 wrote:
you can build pidgin with -gtk and +ncurses, then you don't have pidgin binary ... but still got pidgin, console version ;-)
don't remember the name atm but it's not a pidgin :)


It's "finch". MostAwesomeDude suggested it earlier in this thread.

I got it solved a while ago, probably with your suggestions (my memory is crap). Thanks, though!
_________________
Gentoo Studio: http://gentoostudio.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/gentoostudio
G+: https://plus.google.com/113947758237122861689/posts
Pappy's Kernel Seeds: http://kernel-seeds.org
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
madchaz
l33t
l33t


Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Posts: 981
Location: Quebec, Canada

PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to agree that some warning such as "If USE="gtk" is not enabled, the pidgin interface will not be available, use finch at the console instead" would be nice. Had to poke around a lot before I finally came here to find out why I couldn't find it
_________________
Someone asked me once if I suffered from mental illness. I told him I enjoyed every second of it.
www.madchaz.com Under heavy reconstruction. Bring a hardhat.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
tomk
Administrator
Administrator


Joined: 23 Sep 2003
Posts: 7219
Location: Sat in front of my computer

PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moved from Other Things Gentoo to Duplicate Threads, please see Pidgin merges fine, but where's the bin?
_________________
Search | Read | Answer | Report | Strip
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Reply to topic    Gentoo Forums Forum Index Duplicate Threads All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum