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 Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:58 am Post subject: [SOLVED] Xlib: Maximum number of clients reached ? |
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The past 2 days, I have the following problem. Kde(or whoever is responsible) won't let me run more than 3 or 4 applications. Launching a program from the console, gives me this error:
| Code: | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: Maximum number of clients reached
kchmviewer: cannot connect to X server :0.0 |
I read a couple of post about a similar issue, and it seemed tha Firefox was causing the problem. Well, this is not the case for me, It happens even when I don't launch Firefox at all. Can someone plz tell me what to check? I don't remember if that's the way it used to be, but "top" gives me alot of python processes
| Code: | PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
5743 root 20 0 112m 52m 5288 S 10 5.2 3:29.30 X
8460 stathis 20 0 134m 43m 24m S 5 4.3 2:15.29 amarokapp
7846 stathis 20 0 44396 19m 9760 S 5 1.9 0:11.78 avant-window-na
6325 stathis 20 0 49780 14m 10m S 4 1.5 1:20.74 compiz
7676 stathis 20 0 37428 16m 8156 R 1 1.7 0:36.01 gkrellm
7732 stathis 20 0 34616 9.8m 6780 S 1 1.0 0:04.38 python
7749 stathis 20 0 34612 9.8m 6780 S 1 1.0 0:04.26 python
7762 stathis 20 0 34616 9.8m 6780 S 1 1.0 0:04.22 python
7766 stathis 20 0 34616 9.8m 6780 S 1 1.0 0:04.28 python
7770 stathis 20 0 34616 9.8m 6780 S 1 1.0 0:04.36 python
7772 stathis 20 0 34616 9.8m 6780 S 1 1.0 0:04.16 python
7783 stathis 20 0 34612 9.8m 6780 S 1 1.0 0:04.24 python
7786 stathis 20 0 34616 9.8m 6780 S 1 1.0 0:04.28 python
7797 stathis 20 0 34620 9.8m 6780 S 1 1.0 0:04.28 python
7806 stathis 20 0 34616 9.8m 6780 S 1 1.0 0:04.26 python
7814 stathis 20 0 34620 9.8m 6780 S 1 1.0 0:04.48 python
15685 stathis 20 0 31612 18m 14m S 1 1.8 0:00.88 konsole
16411 stathis 20 0 2360 1276 852 R 1 0.1 0:00.06 top
1 root 20 0 1588 480 460 S 0 0.0 0:00.80 init
2 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 kthreadd
3 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/0
4 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0
5 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/0
6 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 migration/1
7 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/1
8 root RT -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.00 watchdog/1
9 root 15 -5 0 0 0 S 0 0.0 0:00.20 events/0 |
I also tried to sync and emerge world, but nothig changed.
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Anyone who can help me, plz? My laptop has become useless, I can only run 2 or 3 applications. I emerge a tool called lsof which shows some details about the processes that ran on the system. I noticed that the following lines, are repeated aloooot of times. The thing is I don't know which application is responsible for these PIDs, and I have closed all of them.
| Code: | python 13546 stathis cwd DIR 8,8 4096 212993 /home/stathis
python 13546 stathis rtd DIR 8,7 4096 2 /
python 13546 stathis txt REG 8,7 5356 400397 /usr/bin/python2.4
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 34244 550148 /lib/libnss_files-2.6.1.so
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 79544 550147 /lib/libnsl-2.6.1.so
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 26260 550021 /lib/libnss_compat-2.6.1.so
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 22896 1744383 /var/cache/fontconfig/87f5e051180a7a75f16eb6fe7dbd3749-x86.cache-2
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 9192 1745467 /var/cache/fontconfig/7998293451e4b7352c3495b870377734-x86.cache-2
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 8112 1745465 /var/cache/fontconfig/76fa4b957c916922374347f144bde9da-x86.cache-2
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 55104 1742968 /var/cache/fontconfig/372cc6709f3dde9ead3aeee94be9d4c5-x86.cache-2
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 55440 1743480 /var/cache/fontconfig/8d4af663993b81a124ee82e610bb31f9-x86.cache-2
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 76168 1744938 /var/cache/fontconfig/4b5cf4386f1cde02a336ba961b4ac82d-x86.cache-2
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 9944 1744818 /var/cache/fontconfig/d62e99ef547d1d24cdb1bd22ec1a2976-x86.cache-2
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 138184 1744386 /var/cache/fontconfig/17090aa38d5c6f09fb8c5c354938f1d7-x86.cache-2
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 138664 1744696 /var/cache/fontconfig/df311e82a1a24c41a75c2c930223552e-x86.cache-2
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,8 5184 220478 /home/stathis/.fontconfig/964b027c7c5dfedc7e0c392487ba441a-x86.cache-2
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 915314 1474656 /usr/lib/locale/el_GR.utf8/LC_COLLATE
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 1118716 609004 /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2.6.30
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 14208 284675 /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3.1.0
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 17592 361154 /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6.0.0
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 166624 827634 /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1.3.0
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 497700 319132 /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6.3.16
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 71628 658216 /usr/lib/libXft.so.2.1.2
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 34272 459213 /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1.0.2
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 21244 284679 /usr/lib/libXrandr.so.2.1.0
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 29548 284676 /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1.3.0
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 30064 459265 /usr/lib/libXi.so.6.0.0
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 39992 610206 /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libgcc_s.so.1
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 879236 610209 /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.2/libstdc++.so.6.0.8
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 953124 560029 /usr/lib/libX11.so.6.2.0
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 52672 376992 /usr/lib/libXext.so.6.4.0
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 80004 379929 /usr/lib/libICE.so.6.3.0
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 29980 380497 /usr/lib/libSM.so.6.0.0
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 136908 445940 /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0.22.0
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 123420 281929 /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62.0.0
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 375068 363389 /usr/lib/libmng.so.1.0.0
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 7136816 937984 /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3.3.8
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 34280 550124 /lib/libnss_nis-2.6.1.so
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 60316 271179 /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/sip.so
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 6123052 706211 /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/qt.so
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 18460 743997 /usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/time.so
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 25486 1459116 /usr/lib/gconv/gconv-modules.cache
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 254020 1474649 /usr/lib/locale/el_GR.utf8/LC_CTYPE
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 1237276 550115 /lib/libc-2.6.1.so
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 149256 550132 /lib/libm-2.6.1.so
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 9624 549998 /lib/libutil-2.6.1.so
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 9612 550135 /lib/libdl-2.6.1.so
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 84168 550145 /lib/libpthread-2.6.1.so
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 965324 400389 /usr/lib/libpython2.4.so.1.0
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 7624 333769 /usr/lib/libXau.so.6.0.0
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 69620 577020 /lib/libz.so.1.2.3
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 15436 744017 /usr/lib/python2.4/lib-dynload/collections.so
python 13546 stathis mem REG 8,7 108996 550104 /lib/ld-2.6.1.so
python 13546 stathis 0r FIFO 0,5 32192 pipe
python 13546 stathis 1w REG 8,8 189116 212998 /home/stathis/.xsession-errors
python 13546 stathis 2w REG 8,8 189116 212998 /home/stathis/.xsession-errors
python 13546 stathis 3u unix 0xca821900 34176 socket
python 13546 stathis 4u unix 0xc4465900 34184 socket
python 13546 stathis 5r FIFO 0,5 34186 pipe
python 13546 stathis 6w FIFO 0,5 34186 pipe
python 13555 stathis cwd DIR 8,8 4096 212993 /home/stathis |
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The only time I've run across this kind of error is when I made a programming error that made connections to the X server, but never closed them. I don't really know a good way of finding out.
Something to try is:
| Code: | | lsof | grep -i xlib |
Which will show you all processes which are using Xlib. Maybe it will help, maybe not. Running it as root would be best.
With some research I found x11-apps/xlsclients. Posting the output of that should help. |
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"lsof | grep -i xlib" shows me nothing(neither with Xlib)
I had used xlsclients, but I hadn't seen anything unusual there. Anyway, I tried to kill one by one the applications, and check if the problem persisted, and so it did. xlscients usually gives me something like this
| Code: | stalap gkrellm
stalap emerald
stalap firefox-bin
stalap kicker
stalap avant-window-navigator |
I ended up having only kicker, and opening some konqueror windows and launching a couple of several applications, produced the same result
Thnx for your reply. |
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Seems like one of those apps opened (opens?) a lot of connections to the X server. You could try restarting X, if you haven't already.
Other than that, I'm out of ideas. |
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You can emerge xrestop and try that.
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| I have tried that, but I don't know how to use it. Giving xrestop from the console shows nothing at all. Strange as it sounds, when i do that, I can hear a high pitched noise coming from the CPU(there is a certain issue with the 1.7 core 2 duo CPUs and noises), but nothing is displayed, it just hangs. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Somebody who could help me out? I don't know what to do with my computer, it's practically useless now. |
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Ok, i managed to run xrestop. It gives me these:
| Code: | xrestop - Display: localhost:0
Monitoring 237 clients. XErrors: 0
Pixmaps: 35227K total, Other: 140K total, All: 35368K total
res-base Wins GCs Fnts Pxms Misc Pxm mem Other Total PID Identifier
1200000 174 41 1 497 221 19947K 11K 19958K 7780 Gentoo Forums :: Index - Mozilla Firefox
1d600000 57 29 1 55 115 4158K 5K 4164K 12536 emerald
1d000000 109 1 1 5 1899 3747K 48K 3795K ? compiz
1600000 35 11 1 60 132 2931K 5K 2936K 6273 KDE Desktop
1ce00000 28 27 0 263 63 2083K 2K 2086K 7721 gkrellm
1b800000 32 29 1 34 54 1085K 3K 1089K 7698 Katapult
1800000 86 75 1 388 328 1044K 12K 1056K 6276 kicker
1d800000 106 99 1 95 96 104K 8K 112K 12502 Untitled - KWrite
12a00000 183 9 1 30 35 33K 6K 40K 7538 KMix
1da00000 33 75 1 38 51 35K 4K 39K 12508 stathis@stalap:~ - Shell - Konsole
0e00000 11 9 1 36 20 34K 1K 36K 7734 KPowersave
0c00000 13 4 1 1 46 21K 2K 23K 6251 kded
1d400000 13 10 1 0 41 0B 2K 2K ? <unknown>
1a00000 3 1 1 0 7 0B 1K 1K 6302 kaccess
1400000 2 1 1 0 6 0B 1K 1K 11729 knotify
1000000 2 1 1 0 6 0B 1K 1K 6263 ksmserver
0200000 0 1 1 0 0 0B 1K 1K ? <unknown>
1cc00000 0 1 0 0 3 0B 96B 96B ? <unknown>
1ca00000 0 1 0 0 3 0B 96B 96B ? <unknown>
1c800000 0 1 0 0 3 0B 96B 96B ? <unknown>
1c600000 0 1 0 0 3 0B 96B 96B ? <unknown>
1c400000 0 1 0 0 3 0B 96B 96B ? <unknown>
1c200000 0 1 0 0 3 0B 96B 96B ? <unknown>
1c000000 0 1 0 0 3 0B 96B 96B ? <unknown>
1be00000 0 1 0 0 3 0B 96B 96B ? <unknown>
1bc00000 0 1 0 0 3 0B 96B 96B ? <unknown>
1ba00000 0 1 0 0 3 0B 96B 96B ? <unknown>
1b600000 0 1 0 0 3 0B 96B 96B ? <unknown>
1b400000 0 1 0 0 3 0B 96B 96B ? <unknown>
1b200000 0 1 0 0 3 0B 96B 96B ? <unknown> |
But what does this tell me? Can someone help me plz? |
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I really have no experience with these tools and I don't know what it causing it, but it seems that something is forking lots of x clients in your system for some misterious reason. In my case, I have only 15:
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Monitoring 15 clients. XErrors: 0
Pixmaps: 35999K total, Other: 196K total, All: 36195K total
res-base Wins GCs Fnts Pxms Misc Pxm mem Other Total PID Identifier
1200000 603 81 1 2517 170 21751K 21K 21772K 6919 Firefox
0c00000 0 0 0 1 0 6150K 0B 6150K ? <unknown>
0400000 139 40 1 158 5659 4705K 137K 4843K ? FVWM
0600000 8 5 1 6 382 3001K 10K 3012K 6736 htop
1800000 149 99 1 18 88 143K 8K 152K 12398 sylpheed
1a00000 341 106 1 208 151 128K 15K 143K 9579 kate
0e00000 1 2 0 7 2 116K 120B 117K ? wmsmixer
0a00000 26 12 1 0 18 1K 2K 3K ? Escritorio
1000000 1 2 0 0 12 248B 360B 608B ? Conky (jesgue)
0800000 1 4 0 0 5 0B 240B 240B ? FvwmTaskbar
1e00000 2 1 0 0 4 0B 168B 168B 9641 kded
1600000 1 1 0 0 0 0B 48B 48B ? xrestop
1c00000 0 1 0 0 0 0B 24B 24B ? <unknown>
1400000 0 1 0 0 0 0B 24B 24B ? <unknown>
0200000 0 1 0 0 0 0B 24B 24B ? <unknown>
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While your code tells us that you have 237. A big difference, and the problem might be there. Right now I don't know what to tell you. I'll try googling a bit and think about it and see if I can deduct something...
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Thnx alot. Everything I have found, seems to have to do with electricsheep screensaver or mozilla firefox. I don't have electricsheep though, and the problem occurs even without launching firefox. Also, giving 'xrestop -b' which I saw somewhere, shows me several PIDs, and then way too many repeating lines likes these:
| Code: | 48 - <unknown> ( PID: ? ):
res_base : ox18c00000
res_mask : ox1fffff
windows : 0
GCs : 1
fonts : 0
pixmaps : 0
pictures : 0
glyphsets : 0
colormaps : 0
passive grabs : 0
cursors : 0
unknowns : 3
pixmap bytes : 0
other bytes : ~96
total bytes : ~96
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I don't know how to find what it is that produces so many clients. Sometimes I can only run one application! |
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Just to discard some user related stuff, can you create a new user and test with it?
Also, if you login as root into the console, what does this report?
If x works, try running it without kde. With just twm or any other light wm, and see if that makes any difference.
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I tried what you suggested, and I think we may have found something. I created a new user, and I restarted X, and logged in as the new user. xrestop now show only 20 clients running. So, this can lead us somewhere...
I present the differences of the outputs of the command in stathis(me) and test_user
| Code: | ps -A | wc -l
stathis 328
test_user 115 |
| Quote: | xrestop (clients)
stathis 233
test_user 20 |
| Code: | xlsclients
stathis
stalap compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp
stalap kicker
stalap emerald
stalap avant-window-navigator
test_user
stalap compiz --replace --sm-disable --ignore-desktop-hints ccp
stalap kicker
stalap emerald |
The only difference in xlsclients is awm, chich I have tried shutting down, but still the number of clients is the same. I 'm thinking of removing the .conf file of kde (located somewhere in home). Could that solve anything? |
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| I really need the computer, so what I did was to remove the entire '.kde' directory from my user. Now the kde starts faster and the problem with the excessive clients has gone(only 24 now). At least I hope so. I know there must be a more elegant way to solve this, but as I said i need the laptop. Thnx alot for your help, I really appreciate it. |
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| manji_ wrote: | | I really need the computer, so what I did was to remove the entire '.kde' directory from my user. Now the kde starts faster and the problem with the excessive clients has gone(only 24 now). At least I hope so. I know there must be a more elegant way to solve this, but as I said i need the laptop. Thnx alot for your help, I really appreciate it. |
Sorry but I had to sleep 
The kde config files are on that dir, you could have looked at ~/.kde/Autostart/ which is the responsible to start programs automatically when booting kde. There could be something in there, some kind of script that was launching an ugly loop or something.
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I was not reffering to you! Of course you can sleep(as soon as you solve my problem  )! I have kept a backup of the entire .kde directory, and in the Autostart dir, there's only a.directory file and an old bery-manager script, but it's commented out anyway. I guess I'll never know what what was causing this behaviour |
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| manji_ wrote: | | I was not reffering to you! Of course you can sleep(as soon as you solve my problem )! I have kept a backup of the entire .kde directory, and in the Autostart dir, there's only a.directory file and an old bery-manager script, but it's commented out anyway. I guess I'll never know what what was causing this behaviour |
Hehe, yeah, it was just a joke.
It's a really strange issue and I think that we will never know what the problem was, as you say. Anyway, the important thing is that at least, it now works ok and you can continue using your machine as you always did. So, congratulations 
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| manji_ wrote: | | I really need the computer, so what I did was to remove the entire '.kde' directory from my user. Now the kde starts faster and the problem with the excessive clients has gone(only 24 now). At least I hope so. I know there must be a more elegant way to solve this, but as I said i need the laptop. Thnx alot for your help, I really appreciate it. |
This starts to point directly to the sessions manager. I user the ~/.kde/Autostart to start the things I want started on login. But if the session manager is set to "restore previous session" processes the don't close nicely when you log off can get stuck in this state (and they are not put in a place that I know how to find). To be honest I'm not entirely sure what happens, but I always change mine to "start with empty sessions". because I have had this "restoring of previous sessions" hurt everything from graphics to completely killing my audio.
I usually notice it in diagnosing someone else's computer when a test user works fine, but their use is snafu.
congrats on finding your problem solving
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| coolsnowmen wrote: | | manji_ wrote: | | I really need the computer, so what I did was to remove the entire '.kde' directory from my user. Now the kde starts faster and the problem with the excessive clients has gone(only 24 now). At least I hope so. I know there must be a more elegant way to solve this, but as I said i need the laptop. Thnx alot for your help, I really appreciate it. |
This starts to point directly to the sessions manager. I user the ~/.kde/Autostart to start the things I want started on login. But if the session manager is set to "restore previous session" processes the don't close nicely when you log off can get stuck in this state (and they are not put in a place that I know how to find). To be honest I'm not entirely sure what happens, but I always change mine to "start with empty sessions". because I have had this "restoring of previous sessions" hurt everything from graphics to completely killing my audio.
I usually notice it in diagnosing someone else's computer when a test user works fine, but their use is snafu.
congrats on finding your problem solving |
I didn't even think about this because I never used anything similar. But this would make a lot of sense. I don't have any idea either on how kde stores this information. KDE is a bit criptic in which regards configuration files.
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| Quote: | This starts to point directly to the sessions manager. I user the ~/.kde/Autostart to start the things I want started on login. But if the session manager is set to "restore previous session" processes the don't close nicely when you log off can get stuck in this state (and they are not put in a place that I know how to find). To be honest I'm not entirely sure what happens, but I always change mine to "start with empty sessions". because I have had this "restoring of previous sessions" hurt everything from graphics to completely killing my audio.
I usually notice it in diagnosing someone else's computer when a test user works fine, but their use is snafu. |
In reference to coolsnowmen's post, I want to add that I have been using this function of KDE, in case it helps somebody else. Actually this problem of mine may have been there for a long time, as KDE used to be too slow when shuting down, and starting up, maybe even a minute(just for KDE desktop to get off the screen). But I hadn't noticed the number of clients then. As soon as I removed the configuration files and put all the programs I want at startup, KDE starts far more faster. And I am very happy about it 
So, maybe I will not too, use this "restore previous session" option.
Thnx alot guys, really. |
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