[solved]emerge -uDN world doesn't update xorg-server

delueks · n00b Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 7

Well, "emerge -uDN xorg-server" successfully updated xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r3 to xorg-server-1.3.0.0-r4, but still I lost some trust in the "emerge -uDN world" since it said everything is up to date, which apparently wasn't the case.
Anyone has an explanation, why this could happen?

thx,
semi

Simba7 · Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:52 pm Post subject:

Maybe it was masked and was just recently unmasked.

Hu · Watchman Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 6825

If xorg-server was not a runtime dependency of any of the packages listed in world, it would not be updated with emerge -uDN world. Use emerge --with-bdeps=y -uDN world to update build time dependencies. If you remove xorg-server from world, what is the output of emerge --pretend --tree --update --deep world?

delueks · n00b Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 7

Wow you are fast...
So emerge --pretend --tree --update --deep world is empty (but now I already updated xorg-server manually).
Well, what exactly is a runtime dependency. equery depends xorg-server gives:

Of course the X-use-flag is set...
Anyhow since xorg-server was in the world-file it definately should have been updated. Especially since there was a bug in the previous version (which isn't in Portage anymore). But since I can't reproduce it anymore and already solved it, its probably not worth wasting any energy on it.
Let's call it 'portage mysteries'...

Hu · Watchman Joined: 06 Mar 2007 Posts: 6825

You may have added x11-base/xorg-server to world when you tried to upgrade x11-base/xorg-server.

A runtime dependency is a package required for another package to run correctly. A build time dependency is one which is needed to build the package, but which can be missing at runtime without affecting the functionality of the built package. I have seen several people with your problem. In their case, it was because x11-base/xorg-server was installed as a build time dependency of x11-libs/gtk+. Since you did not tell it to update build time dependencies, Portage chose to update only runtime dependencies. x11-base/xorg-server is not a runtime dependency of any of the packages in your world file, so it was skipped. I recommend using glsa-check or including --with-bdeps=y when you check for updates to world. It may be overkill to update everything added by --with-bdeps=y every time, but checking what extra packages need an update is cheap. When you spot important ones, such as x11-base/xorg-server, you can explicitly update them with emerge --oneshot category/package.

delueks · n00b Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 7

Ok, that's it. Marked it as solved. No mystery...
Didn't know portage makes a difference in dependencies -> I learned something

Thank You!