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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KK_r wrote:
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Wrote my own (a lot of it) to rip cd's, so you can guess what i use :-)


asunder? ;)


I don't know asunder, but i'm happy with my creation. (and yes, i did see the emoticon)
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wrote your own front-end, or actual ripper? I assume the former. What software do you use to rip the CD itself?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really wish EAC would be opensource to get an fork for GNU world:( Maybe I should try to Wine it?

But I use Grip...
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wrote your own front-end, or actual ripper? I assume the former. What software do you use to rip the CD itself?


Frontend script. Support both cdparanoia and cdda2wav. Double ripping with retrying. Musepack, flac and wavpack support. (all at the same time if needed)
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't rip a lot, and used xdvdshrink before finding media-video/k9copy which works a charm!
http://k9copy.free.fr/
Mvh

Edit: If this was supposed to be a CD ripper thread then KDE's audiocd:/ has become my preferred ripper
- it handles utf-8 filesnames and tags perfectly, tho' a little slower than some other rippers perhaps.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cintra wrote:
I don't rip a lot, and used xdvdshrink before finding media-video/k9copy which works a charm!
http://k9copy.free.fr/
Mvh


That is a dvd ripper, not a (audio) cd ripper.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

madman2003 wrote:
halfgaar wrote:
Wrote your own front-end, or actual ripper? I assume the former. What software do you use to rip the CD itself?


Frontend script. Support both cdparanoia and cdda2wav. Double ripping with retrying. Musepack, flac and wavpack support. (all at the same time if needed)


If you use cdparanoia, there is not much retrying you have to do. I (well, actually a friend typed in the commands) ripped a CD once which were unplayable on any cd player and un-rippable with most rippers, but cdparanoia got the job done, after a long time. I don't think it gives up that easily. I like cdparanoia, with all it's sector-overlapscanning etc. And, I of course always use -X (abort on error) so that I don't have uncomplete tracks. It's also good to know that when it says it's finished OK, it really finished without errors.

BTW, a little off topic, but when you rip audio CDs to be burned as new audio CDs, you should use cdrdao. It also has paranoia support. Why you should use it, is because you can rip an entire CD as one binary image, along with the CD's TOC (table of contents). This way, by copying the TOC and not letting the write software re-create it, you have all the pre-gaps as they are on the orginal. A CD can have some tracks which flow into eachother seamlessly, while other tracks do have a pause between them. When burning individual WAV files, even in disc-at-once mode, you never have the orginal pre-gap configuration. Copying a binary image with cdrdao will give proper results.

Following up on that, the K3b frontend doesn't use cdrdao reading for copying audio CD's, but reads tracks instead. Therefore, your copy will be track based, instead of CD-based. It's very possible most frontends do it wrong. Best way is to know how to use commandline tools. "If you wan't something done right, you have to do it yourself". I motto I live by...
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

halfgaar wrote:
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halfgaar wrote:
Wrote your own front-end, or actual ripper? I assume the former. What software do you use to rip the CD itself?


Frontend script. Support both cdparanoia and cdda2wav. Double ripping with retrying. Musepack, flac and wavpack support. (all at the same time if needed)


If you use cdparanoia, there is not much retrying you have to do. I (well, actually a friend typed in the commands) ripped a CD once which were unplayable on any cd player and un-rippable with most rippers, but cdparanoia got the job done, after a long time. I don't think it gives up that easily. I like cdparanoia, with all it's sector-overlapscanning etc. And, I of course always use -X (abort on error) so that I don't have uncomplete tracks. It's also good to know that when it says it's finished OK, it really finished without errors.

BTW, a little off topic, but when you rip audio CDs to be burned as new audio CDs, you should use cdrdao. It also has paranoia support. Why you should use it, is because you can rip an entire CD as one binary image, along with the CD's TOC (table of contents). This way, by copying the TOC and not letting the write software re-create it, you have all the pre-gaps as they are on the orginal. A CD can have some tracks which flow into eachother seamlessly, while other tracks do have a pause between them. When burning individual WAV files, even in disc-at-once mode, you never have the orginal pre-gap configuration. Copying a binary image with cdrdao will give proper results.

Following up on that, the K3b frontend doesn't use cdrdao reading for copying audio CD's, but reads tracks instead. Therefore, your copy will be track based, instead of CD-based. It's very possible most frontends do it wrong. Best way is to know how to use commandline tools. "If you wan't something done right, you have to do it yourself". I motto I live by...


I'm the kind of person that did test&copy ripping with eac back when i used windows, so i do now too. Nothing i found would do that. Ripping twice ensures (with both cdparanoia and cdda2wav) a proper rip. I also want my music in a useable form on my harddrive, (my soundcard with a toslink cable to my reciever is my primary source) the script i made also supports(i don't use that) single flac + cue sheet (which would effectively do the same as you suggest).
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Konqueror 8) kioslaves are the way forward :)
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those of you looking for an mp3 player that pays ogg files I recomend the Iriver h-100/h-120/h-140. I've had 3 mp3 players and my h-140 has been the best. They play ogg out of the box and open source, (hence better, faster, more features) firmware is available.

Rockbox.org - open source firmware that supports ogg and flac, and any of the playes they've taken the time to rewrite are probably pretty good.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

abcde rocks! no muss, no fuss, always finds (multiple) cddb entries (some cddb's don't pick up some of my cd's.

To anticipate your next question, I have some obscure CD's (Finnish folk-rockers Varttina, for example,) but I've seen the CDDB recognize those, and not recognize some famous, old ones!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer grip
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holy thread revival, Batman!

I use k3b, since it has all the audio options I'd ever need. And it's faster than any of the gtk+-based applications I've tried. I refuse to use commandline tools; GUI is the way to go. k3b's biggest drawback is that it's Qt-based . . . and I run an all Gnome/Xfce environment. But it does get the job done.

The oft-mentioned Grip just has an ugly layout, even though it's gtk2. asunder, which I just tried today, is extremely minimal; no heavy Gnome deps, but its mp3 output is b0rked on amd64.

I noticed ripperX was mentioned several times, but it's gtk1, which is even more hideous than Qt. I added an ebuild for brasero-0.7.0, but unlike k3b, it's not a one-stop-shop for CD audio. For Gnome, sound-juicer is simple enough, but it can only do FLAC, wav, and Ogg. Some of my audio players only support mp3.

So I'm still searching for a decent mp3/flac/wav/ogg gtk2 ripper/encoder.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nightmorph wrote:
For Gnome, sound-juicer is simple enough, but it can only do FLAC, wav, and Ogg. Some of my audio players only support mp3.
Actually sound-juicer can rip to mp3 as well, you just need to install few extra gstreamer plugins.
see http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_rip_mp3s
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the spirit of this thread, I grabbed a CD and tried ripping it with k3b, and at this point in time, the start of the new year, k3b seems to be very easy to use to rip CDs (put an audio cd in the drive and copy the tracks to your hard drive as mp3/wav/etc files)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pussi wrote:
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For Gnome, sound-juicer is simple enough, but it can only do FLAC, wav, and Ogg. Some of my audio players only support mp3.
Actually sound-juicer can rip to mp3 as well, you just need to install few extra gstreamer plugins.
see http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_rip_mp3s

Indeed it can -- I had forgotten that feature. It's been awhile since I bothered to use sound-juicer. It is a bit of a pain to setup; users should not have to prepare commandline options for a graphical utility! And you'll have to restart sound-juicer several times to get it to recognize any custom profiles you create.

Still, this will suffice until I can find something else, and/or once asunder's mp3 capabilities start working. I filed a bugreport with upstream; time will tell.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nightmorph wrote:
So I'm still searching for a decent mp3/flac/wav/ogg gtk2 ripper/encoder.

Rubyripper! It's the closest thing to EAC that exists on Linux. And it's in portage too (thanks to flameeyes).
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yuck, ruby! Heck no. Stupid, useless dependencies. Plus it seems it still has issues -- I checked around the forums and found several threads reporting problems with it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nightmorph wrote:
I noticed ripperX was mentioned several times, but it's gtk1.

There exists a gtk2-Patch http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-621155.html . And it works quite solid. I haven't ripped audio-cds very much in the last months. But RipperX is nice, simple and fast. For ID3-tag correction I use EasyTag afterwards.

Because I wan't to switch more and more to KDE apps I also tried KAudioCreator. But that thing was only a terrible tormentor for my cdroms (Plextor SCSI-TX40max and Plextor SCSI-12/1032 ws). The drives clicked and clicked. I nearly thougt they'll explode in the next seconds. And ripping the cds needed almost three times of time of RipperX.
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