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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:01 am    Post subject: WTF!!! 24th School Shooting This Year? Reply with quote

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Amish_school_shooting#Other_recent_school_shootings

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This was the 24th school shooting of 2006 in the United States according to the National School Safety and Security Services.
NFW! You have 24 school shootings IN A YEAR!!!.

If that isn't an advert for gun control i dont know what is!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must have been preoccupied earlier this year. I only knew about the two.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gun control? that doesn't stop the hick with 6 rifles in his basement... :roll:

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to wikipedia there have been also some failed attempts:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School_shooting#Foiled_or_exposed_plots

Well if it's not a problem of weapons it seems that is at least a problem of high schools. Something happens there.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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gun control? that doesn't stop the hick with 6 rifles in his basement... :roll:
well it stops those without them getting them and doing these atrocities
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

... and in other news, the state of Texas forbids people to promote or use 'sex toys shaped like sexual organs'.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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.. and in other news, the state of Texas forbids people to promote or use 'sex toys shaped like sexual organs'.


how the hell did that cock mongler Bush ever advertise his election campaigns?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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... and in other news, the state of Texas forbids people to promote or use 'sex toys shaped like sexual organs'.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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gun control? that doesn't stop the hick with 6 rifles in his basement... :roll:

</sarcasm>


If somebody wants a gun, somebody is going to get a gun. There are many ways other than through legal avenues to buy a weapon. Of course, gun control would make it more difficult, and OP is correct: this does make a good case for implementing a stronger form of it.

Of course, banning guns all together is also a really good way to create a new black market opportunity, which, imho, make it a bad idea. We already have a War against Drugs; the last thing we need is a War against Guns.

Keep in mind that in most of the US, gun ownership is a way of life among every strata of society. They will not give up their guns easily, which is percisely why there will never be a full ban on guns in the US.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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bunder wrote:
gun control? that doesn't stop the hick with 6 rifles in his basement... :roll:

</sarcasm>


If somebody wants a gun, somebody is going to get a gun. There are many ways other than through legal avenues to buy a weapon. Of course, gun control would make it more difficult, and OP is correct: this does make a good case for implementing a stronger form of it.

Of course, banning guns all together is also a really good way to create a new black market opportunity, which, imho, make it a bad idea. We already have a War against Drugs; the last thing we need is a War against Guns.

Keep in mind that in most of the US, gun ownership is a way of life among every strata of society. They will not give up their guns easily, which is percisely why there will never be a full ban on guns in the US.


somebody wants drugs, somebody is going to get drugs. There aree many ways other than through legal avenues to buy drugs. Of course, anti drug laws make it more difficult.

Of course, banning drugs all together was also a really good way to create a black market, which, imho, made it a bad idea. We already lost the War against drugs.

Keep in mind that in most of the US, drug usage is a way of life among every strata of society. They will not give up their drugs easily, which is percisely why there can be made so much money on the black market...

You can replace 'guns' with drugs, nerve gas or grenade launchers. But the US are one of the most violent countries in the world. Maybe because of the guns, maybe because of sexuall suppression (which leads to violence), maybe the combination of both. Why not ban the guns, shoot everybody who does not want to give them up (which would also solve some of the christian extremist problem), and make porn and sex more free?

It can't get any worse than it is now.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was a incident in a school a few days ago where a guy walked in and took like 4 hostages, killed 1 of them, raped some girls and then killed himself...it was in Colorado I believe.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

plbe wrote:
There was a incident in a school a few days ago where a guy walked in and took like 4 hostages, killed 1 of them, raped some girls and then killed himself...it was in Colorado I believe.
nah, that was Staten Island.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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somebody wants drugs, somebody is going to get drugs. There aree many ways other than through legal avenues to buy drugs. Of course, anti drug laws make it more difficult.

Of course, banning drugs all together was also a really good way to create a black market, which, imho, made it a bad idea. We already lost the War against drugs.

Keep in mind that in most of the US, drug usage is a way of life among every strata of society. They will not give up their drugs easily, which is percisely why there can be made so much money on the black market...

You can replace 'guns' with drugs, nerve gas or grenade launchers. But the US are one of the most violent countries in the world. Maybe because of the guns, maybe because of sexuall suppression (which leads to violence), maybe the combination of both. Why not ban the guns, shoot everybody who does not want to give them up (which would also solve some of the christian extremist problem), and make porn and sex more free?

It can't get any worse than it is now.
i think the idea is that all these supposedly "normal" people wouldn't have guns, only the criminals would then the "normal" people wouldn't create theese atrocities
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark_alec wrote:
... and in other news, the state of Texas forbids people to promote or use 'sex toys shaped like sexual organs'.


Lemme get this straight.. I am allowed to own a gun which enables nothing but infliction of pain but I'm not allowed to own sextoys which enables nothing but pleasure??

Fuck you Americans are odd!
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playfool wrote:
mark_alec wrote:
... and in other news, the state of Texas forbids people to promote or use 'sex toys shaped like sexual organs'.


Lemme get this straight.. I am allowed to own a gun which enables nothing but infliction of pain but I'm not allowed to own sextoys which enables nothing but pleasure??

Fuck you Americans are odd!


WTF? Haven't you ever seen lock stock and 2 smoking barrels?? the guy got beaten to death with a dildo..
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WTF? Haven't you ever seen lock stock and 2 smoking barrels?? the guy got beaten to death with a dildo..
is that the way you want to go :D
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plbe wrote:
WTF? Haven't you ever seen lock stock and 2 smoking barrels?? the guy got beaten to death with a dildo..
is that the way you want to go :D


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is totally odd about this discussion is that the link that was given was the school shooting that happended in Paradise Pennsylvania, In an Amish School.

The Amish are don't really have guns, A few of them may have hunting rifles, but your not gonna be able to find someone with a firearm collection, and even in this place where there is for a large part a self disarmament. Someone took a gun went into their community and shot up the local school.

If you were to ban all guns all you would have is a bigger opportunity's for criminals to cause mass causality without fear of reprival.
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playfool wrote:
Fuck you Americans are odd!

This is your brain on Christianity. Any questions?
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xglad wrote:
playfool wrote:
Fuck you Americans are odd!

This is your brain on Christianity. Any questions?


You also have to remember...this is in texas...bush is from texas...nuff said.
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playfool wrote:
Fuck you Americans are odd!

This is your brain on Christianity. Any questions?

no

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Tekel wrote:
What is totally odd about this discussion is that the link that was given was the school shooting that happended in Paradise Pennsylvania, In an Amish School.

The Amish are don't really have guns, A few of them may have hunting rifles, but your not gonna be able to find someone with a firearm collection, and even in this place where there is for a large part a self disarmament. Someone took a gun went into their community and shot up the local school.

If you were to ban all guns all you would have is a bigger opportunity's for criminals to cause mass causality without fear of reprival.


nope, that is, what the police is for.

All the guns in the usa could not prevent any school shootings. Banning guns and giving the owners mandatory cement shoes, would prevent most of them.

And if a shooting happened it was neve solved by some brave citizens with their private gun cache, but by police forces. So remove the guns and you will reduce the risk.

And all that school shootings are only the tip of the mountain. Don't forget all the accidentally shootings, kids killing themselves or their friends while goofing around with daddies gun etc pp.
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Tekel wrote:
If you were to ban all guns all you would have is a bigger opportunity's for criminals to cause mass causality without fear of reprival.
tell me why all these shootings are caused by people who aren't usually criminals then?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

atrus123 wrote:
bunder wrote:
gun control? that doesn't stop the hick with 6 rifles in his basement... :roll:

</sarcasm>


If somebody wants a gun, somebody is going to get a gun. There are many ways other than through legal avenues to buy a weapon. Of course, gun control would make it more difficult, and OP is correct: this does make a good case for implementing a stronger form of it.

Of course, banning guns all together is also a really good way to create a new black market opportunity, which, imho, make it a bad idea. We already have a War against Drugs; the last thing we need is a War against Guns.

Keep in mind that in most of the US, gun ownership is a way of life among every strata of society. They will not give up their guns easily, which is percisely why there will never be a full ban on guns in the US.


I was going to comment on this, but I think I'm finally beginning to understand. Americans have a fascination with guns unrivaled anywhere. Such a thirst for owning guns that if you make it illegal there'll be hordes of deprived gun owners trying to recover their damages on the black market. I've read people say this many times in the past, but I think it's just starting to dawn on me now.

It's very hard to understand this from a European point of view, why would you need a gun if you don't need to kill anyone? How does a gun in the house protect you, you shoot a burglar and you go to jail for murder. I still don't understand why you guys love guns so much, but I can see that you do. And thus it would be incredibly difficult to bring about a change of culture.
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numerodix wrote:
How does a gun in the house protect you, you shoot a burglar and you go to jail for murder.

If you shoot a burglar in your house you end up with 1 dead burglar and 0 people in jail.
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