kdeenv blocks kdelibs

Tonglebeak · Guru Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Posts: 362

Calculating world dependencies |
!!! Ebuilds for the following packages are either all
!!! masked or don't exist:
media-video/cinelerra-svn

... done!
[blocks B ] kde-base/kde-env (is blocking kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.4-r2)
[ebuild U ] app-admin/eselect-1.0.5 [1.0.2] USE="-bash-completion -doc" 146 kB
[ebuild U ] app-admin/eselect-opengl-1.0.4 [1.0.3] 41 kB
[ebuild U ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.4-r2 [3.5.4-r1] USE="alsa cups kdeenablefinal kdehiddenvisibility spell ssl tiff xinerama -acl -arts -debug -doc -fam -jpeg2k -kerberos -legacyssl -noutempter -openexr -zeroconf" 35 kB

What's going on here, do I need to say goodbye to kde-env (as in it's being removed from portage)?

mebrelith · Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:51 am Post subject:

Yea.... well it looks like kde-env is no longer needed.
Unmerge kde-env and then proceed with the updates.
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Ringworm · Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 6:28 am Post subject:

And remember to run revdep-rebuild afterwards to see if anything is broken.
I had to re-emerge amarok, but everything else seems to be working ok.
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DocReedSolomon · Guru Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 419

kde-env is now included in kdelibs.

UncleOwen · Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:30 am Post subject:

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UncleOwen · Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 1:38 pm Post subject:

emerge -1 kdelibs doesn't record kdelibs in the world file.

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lo-jay · l33t Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 862

i really do not get it - did unmerge kde-env - but i can still not update my system

Autie · Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:58 pm Post subject:

seems for you, some packages depend on kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.2-r6, wich need kde-env.
so, try to find out wich package that is
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davidgurvich · Veteran Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 1063

Looks like you are mixing arch and ~arch packages. One of the arch packages is drawing in kdelibs-3.5.2 and trying to downgrade your installed kdelibs.

lo-jay · l33t Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 862

equery give me this:

lo-jay · l33t Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 862

o.k. unmerged ALL my kde apps, ecleaned and depcleaned.
but i does not look to me that kde-env is totally obsolent. since when i try to install
k3b i get again:

UncleOwen · Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:35 am Post subject:

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UncleOwen · Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:08 am Post subject:

Why would you? It's a library! The world file should only contain the apps that you need (that is, that you installed explicitly), not the dependencies thereof.

boniek · Guru Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 373

I don't understand. If it wont get into world file, it won't get updated by emerge -uDN world when there will be newer version available (e.g with security fix or additional features) and you will be stuck with this version till next explicit emerge of this package. Who's gonna remember which package was "oneshotted" with hundreds of packages in our systems? Am I missing something?

nunogt · Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:08 pm Post subject:

boniek · Guru Joined: 26 Mar 2005 Posts: 373

Thanks for clarification.

lo-jay · l33t Joined: 27 Feb 2005 Posts: 862

o.k. for ignorants like me: how would i tell portage to install ony ~arch kde packages?

thanks again!
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Autie · Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:11 pm Post subject:

telling it in make.conf
add a line like this:

Bobnoxous · Apprentice Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 240

You edit /etc/portage/package.keywords, and you add each package you want to use unstable. In my case, I added:
>=kdebase/kdexxx-3.5.4 ~x86

where xxx is the kde package I was installing. I don't think you can use wildcards in package.keywords, so you need to specify each KDE package (use metapackages).

Also, make sure you don't miss one, and have something like kdenetwork using a 3.5.2 version, while the rest is 3.5.4. This was giving me the kde-env dependency problem.

I use >=, so that as the revisions increase, eventually my system will be using the stable packages, instead of always upgrading to the latest and greatest. Otherwise, unstable packages will require other unstable packages, and after a couple years your system is full of them, and all the inherent problems. You just can't get back to the stable branch very easily.
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Autie · Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:24 pm Post subject:

oh, yes.
didn't read well.
sorry, forget what i said

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AllenJB · Veteran Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 1285

You ask nicely and get a package list off someone like me - there's a fairly complete one at http://allenjb.me.uk/files/kde - add that to /etc/portage/package.keywords. Note that that file is design to be used on systems where you're using the -meta packages. It doesn't contain the monolithic KDE packages.

Tip of the day: Did you know that /etc/portage/package.* can now be directories containing multiple files. In this case you might want to do the following: