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morbid Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 05 Mar 2003 Posts: 78 Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| As of recently, my archCK kernel shows up as a gentoo kernel. Looking under "Gentoo", there are other systems running "archCK" kernels besides mine... though some are still listed under archck (probably non-gentooers). Anyone know why this is? |
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Raptor911 Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Posts: 82 Location: California, USA
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:04 am Post subject: |
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This is awesome!
When should i be able to see my input on the webpage? |
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WL(inux) n00b

Joined: 15 Jan 2004 Posts: 64 Location: Vienna
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mda2376 n00b

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Posts: 8 Location: Rochester, NY
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Napalm Llama Guru


Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 515 Location: Swansea, UK
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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Argh - I went to install this, but not only is it masked, it wants to install three other dependancies - one of which is also masked! As I perform an
| Code: | emerge -e system
emerge -e system
emerge -e world
emerge -e world |
fairly frequently, I'm against anything that installs lots of extra packages - especially if it doesn't benefit me in any significant way.
If it was only one emerge, and stable, it'd be running right now. But as it is - not likely.
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Also, it wants to run as an initscript, adding to my bootup time and using my memory. As has been suggested earlier on this thread, a cron-based script would be much better. _________________ splig: amd64; nForce3; sata; GeForce 6600gt agp
muttley: EFIKA 5200B - PPC SoC
Registered Linux User #381314
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raptor Apprentice

Joined: 20 Sep 2002 Posts: 155
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:27 am Post subject: wow |
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when check All,all,all... Gentoo is on first 4 places ...wow  |
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freedryk n00b

Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 2
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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I try to emerge and I get this error:
| Code: | >>> Install klive-0.16 into /var/tmp/portage/klive-0.16/image/ category app-misc
* 'enewuser()' called from 'install()' which is not a pkg_* function.
* Package fails at QA and at life. Please file a bug.
!!! ERROR: app-misc/klive-0.16 failed.
Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1532: Called dyn_install
ebuild.sh, line 1005: Called src_install
klive-0.16.ebuild, line 23: Called enewuser 'klive' '-1' '/bin/bash'
eutils.eclass, line 446: Called die
!!! Bad package! enewuser is only for use in pkg_* functions!
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if relevant.
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Any ideas? |
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pteppic l33t

Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 781
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 1:20 am Post subject: |
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| Open the ebuild in your favourite editor, change enewuser to newuser, save it, run '# ebuild klive-0.16.ebuild digest', re-emerge, and possibly submit bug report. |
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afabco Guru

Joined: 24 Feb 2004 Posts: 380
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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 1:29 am Post subject: |
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why is it masked off?
If it's stable and ready for prime time, shouldn't it be unmasked? javascript:emoticon(' ')
Seriously though, I do try to keep most of my boxen at the stable level. _________________ Anyone who puts a small gloss on a fundamental technology, calls it proprietary, and then tries to keep others from building on it, is a thief.
-Tim O'Reilly |
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Narusegawa Apprentice


Joined: 29 Jun 2004 Posts: 210 Location: Bimringham, UK
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Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 10:15 am Post subject: |
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this is still masked on amd64
is it fairly stable on amd64? if so I'll use it gladly on all my servers _________________ WARNING: It is a violation of federal law to use me in a way inconsistent with my labelling. I am dangerous to humans and domestic animals. Please avoid contact with your eyes and clothing. I should be stored out of the reach of children. |
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legine Guru

Joined: 27 May 2004 Posts: 555 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:46 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | when check All,all,all... Gentoo is on first 4 places ...wow |
Well look at the distributions
While Gentoo has 245 submitters Mandriva has 9
The mighty Debian distrigbution is represented with total of 4 people
Well and the other distributions are similar.
Guess, other distributions just dont have the link to their Communities.Or they do not have the same Interest in this.
Well doesnt matter.
Can I submit too even if my box hasnt any internet connection atm?
Like sending a Protocoll from time to time... _________________ quote from Spaceballs:
Dark Helmet:[...] we were told to comb the desert, so we're combing it! [puts down bullhorn] Find anything yet?!
Soldier: Nothing yet, sir. |
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brantgurga Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 30 Dec 2003 Posts: 75 Location: Indianapolis, IN
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Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 12:53 am Post subject: |
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| What kind of information do the gentoo kernel developers currently see in the klive data that may affect decisions? |
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przeuj Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 11 May 2004 Posts: 94 Location: Krakow
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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an excellent idea
emerged and running.
btw. not a great solution for servers -- it wanted to pull to many packages on my server box...
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[ebuild N ] net-zope/zopeinterface-3.0.1 USE="-doc" 0 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/urt-3.1b-r1 USE="X gif tiff -gs" 992 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/jbigkit-1.6-r1 396 kB
[ebuild N ] app-arch/unzip-5.52-r1 0 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/jasper-1.701.0 USE="jpeg opengl" 1,329 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/netpbm-10.34 USE="jpeg png svga tiff xml zlib" 2,679 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-util/dialog-1.0.20050206 USE="unicode" 0 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/perl-tk-804.027 5,870 kB
[ebuild N ] net-libs/libwww-5.4.0-r4 USE="mysql ssl" 1,110 kB
[ebuild N ] app-text/tetex-2.0.2-r8 USE="X tk -doc" 85,040 kB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/gnu-gs-fonts-std-8.11 3,664 kB
[ebuild N ] app-text/ghostscript-gpl-8.54 USE="X cups gtk jpeg2k -cjk -emacs" 12,082 kB
[ebuild N ] virtual/ghostscript-0 0 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-tex/latex2html-2002.2.1_pre20041025-r1 USE="gif png" 0 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-python/pyopenssl-0.6 USE="tetex" 0 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-python/pyopengl-2.0.0.44 1,251 kB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libsvg-0.1.2 254 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libsvg-cairo-0.1.6 317 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-python/pycairo-1.0.2 USE="gtk svg -numeric" 458 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-python/numeric-23.7 708 kB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/gtkglarea-1.99.0 USE="-debug" 205 kB
[ebuild N ] gnome-base/libglade-2.5.1 USE="-debug -doc" 310 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-python/pygtk-2.8.6 USE="opengl -doc" 739 kB
[ebuild N ] dev-python/twisted-2.0.1 USE="crypt gtk -serial" 0 kB
[ebuild N ] app-misc/klive-0.23 0 kB
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cheers,
Bartek _________________ [img]http://www.openwengo.org/static/eng_eng/images/banners/wengophone.png[/img] |
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Ibn al-Hazardous Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 133 Location: Somewhere deep in the desert.
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Hi!
Klive seems to mess up NFS on 2.6.18 systems. At least it started acting up after I upgraded.
After some hairtearing, I stumbled upon some weird stuff when I made a netstat, someone
did nfs over udp to an internet host!? I thought I was owned, but then I thought I'd check
Klive - and after shutting it down, nfs would start up again. So, if anyone gets:
| Code: | | [nfsd] nfssvc: Address already in use |
...in their logs - try shutting down klive.
Does anyone know why this started now? Or was it just a fluke? And, is it patchable - or can
the world do without the statistics from my little file server?  _________________ /Ibn |
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Cinquero Apprentice

Joined: 24 Jun 2004 Posts: 249
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Shouldn't we do something like that (and more) on our own in a more reliable way at the client-side (in other words: actually working!)?
A simple data collector and sender script put into /etc/cron.daily should be totally sufficient.... anyone interested? I would personally be interested because I need data on hardware stability and a correlation between uptime, detected crashes via /var/log/messages and lspci output could possibly be of help there.
Would you install such a simple script?
I could also add a script to track app usage such that we will get a popularity list . |
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someone19 n00b

Joined: 26 Sep 2006 Posts: 51
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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| Cinquero wrote: |
Would you install such a simple script? |
Count me in. I think the general useage and statistics would be helpful.
| Quote: | I could also add a script to track app usage such that we will get a popularity list . |
Maybe... We're getting into a part here where some people could be paranoid...
85% of the gentoo community runs *torrent clients - THEY'RE STEALING!!!!
Not my position, but statistics are meant for one purpose, to emphasize the point of whatever anybody wants to say, right or wrong. |
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Cinquero Apprentice

Joined: 24 Jun 2004 Posts: 249
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Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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Ok. What data should it collect and send to the server? My recommendations are:
cat /proc/cpuinfo
cat /proc/meminfo
uptime
df (to get disk space evolution numbers?)
emerge --info
zcat /proc/config.gz
cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
lspci
lsusb
( cd /var/db/pkg ; ls -d */* )
check for lockups/crashes by parsing /var/log/messages for missing shutdowns.
Anything else? Anything problematic with that list?
App usage would of course not include arguments to the apps... so bittorrent users would be on the safe side. I would also make that optional as I am generally also concerned with privacy. A pretty easy thing to protect privacy would be to look at the access times for files in /usr/bin etc. That, of course, would only give a rough hint at the app's popularity, but one could add sanity checks so that intrusion detection systems don't interfere etc.
The interpretation of all that data is done server-side (except where it really is not practical). That allows to gather data first, and then refine the evaluation techniques. |
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Cinquero Apprentice

Joined: 24 Jun 2004 Posts: 249
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Henning Rogge Apprentice

Joined: 20 Sep 2002 Posts: 178
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| Code: | henning ~ # /etc/init.d/klive start
* Caching service dependencies ... [ ok ]
* Starting KLive ...
Failed to load application: cannot import name app [ !! ] |
I think I have a problem... (I'm using a ~x86 system) |
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Ringworm n00b


Joined: 11 Mar 2006 Posts: 10 Location: Bangkok, Thailand
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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: |
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| Henning Rogge wrote: | | Code: | henning ~ # /etc/init.d/klive start
* Caching service dependencies ... [ ok ]
* Starting KLive ...
Failed to load application: cannot import name app [ !! ] |
I think I have a problem... (I'm using a ~x86 system) |
I have the same problem.
According to this bug: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162402
downgrade dev-python/twisted-2.5.0 to dev-python/twisted-2.4.0 _________________ So here I am once more in the playground of the broken hearts. |
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Henning Rogge Apprentice

Joined: 20 Sep 2002 Posts: 178
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Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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| It's working now... thank you. |
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Kasumi_Ninja Veteran


Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 1825 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:27 am Post subject: |
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I would like to add klive on all my Gentoo boxes (4 in total) before I do so I would like to know;
1 What data gets collected
2 How the Gentoo Linux / kernel project can benefit from this.
I have read the previous posts and browsed the klive website but couldn't find the answer. Thanks in advance!
I have found some info in the wiki. Is this list correct? What does session_id mean ? And how do I set the optional settings?
| Code: | [implicit] session_id
[implicit] ip address
full kernel version (as output by uname -a)
[optional] /proc/mounts information
[optional] list of PCI IDs
[optional] /proc/modules information
RAM size
number of CPUs
frequency rating of CPU(s)
uptime information
[optional] system_id3 |
_________________ Please add [solved] to the initial post's subject line if you feel your problem is resolved. Help answer the unanswered |
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MK24 n00b

Joined: 31 Dec 2004 Posts: 46
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| By installing klive, do I really help the gentoo-sources maintaining staff? |
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dingfelder Apprentice


Joined: 27 Jun 2007 Posts: 162 Location: New Zealand
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:55 am Post subject: |
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The page cannot be displayed _________________ Claiming that your operating system is the best in the world because more people use it is like saying McDonalds makes the best food in the world. |
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WladyX Guru


Joined: 25 Nov 2004 Posts: 503 Location: Romania
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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I'm in. Maybe it would be nice to have a thread with tools like this which can help out the community without too much interaction needed. _________________ We are not alone. |
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