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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 5:57 am    Post subject: up-to-date? Reply with quote

i thought one of the major advantages of gentoo is that it's absolutely up-to-date. but in gentoo i've got kernel 2.4.20, while in mandrake i already have 2.4.21. also, i just emerged mozilla and it's 'only' 1.3 while 1.3.1 is available for a long time now. is it just that emerge usually just gets really stable packages and can i somehow tell gentoo to take the really most up-to-date packages?

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just set ~x86 in your make.config file to install masked packages, some maybe still classified as unstable. Or you can just tell emerge to install the package that you point it to in portage.

Myself, I prefer stability to having the most up to date packages.

Just because the developer says that the program is stable doesnt mean that it is on everyones machine, just his/her own. Take for instance Mandrake 9.0.........

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PostPosted: Fri May 30, 2003 6:47 am    Post subject: Re: up-to-date? Reply with quote

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i thought one of the major advantages of gentoo is that it's absolutely up-to-date. but in gentoo i've got kernel 2.4.20, while in mandrake i already have 2.4.21.


2.4.21 is not a stable kernel. As a matter of fact, there is no 2.4.21 yet, there are just release candidates for the upcoming 2.4.21, so I really wouldn't try it on a system I use daily unless there was something specific I needed in it.

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also, i just emerged mozilla and it's 'only' 1.3 while 1.3.1 is available for a long time now.


1.3.1 was released to fix a major bug in the Mac version. There isn't really anything spectacular in it compared to 1.3. I'm sure someone is working on an ebuild though.

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is it just that emerge usually just gets really stable packages and can i somehow tell gentoo to take the really most up-to-date packages?


Yes, you're exactly right, by default you get the stable versions. To always get the unstable versions, edit /etc/make.conf and un-comment the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS line and change ~arch to your processor type (x86 for an Intel/AMD). I wouldn't recommend this if you're just starting out with Gentoo.

If you want to see which packages are actually there but masked, look (for instance) in /usr/portage/net-www/mozilla to see which ebuilds are there. If there is one you want that is unstable (masked), you can emerge it like this (when they actually add 1.3.1):

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ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~86" emerge /usr/portage/net-www/mozilla/mozilla-1.3.1.ebuild


A lot of people have ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~86" in /etc/make.conf and use the bleeding edge. Personally, I use the second method for individual packages when I need the latest.
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