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Extintor Tux's lil' helper

Joined: 09 Oct 2004 Posts: 113 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Nice idea.
If i hade something to donate I certainly would. _________________ Beerhazard | Nobelium | VIm | Perl | Ruby |
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chronophobic Apprentice


Joined: 07 Mar 2005 Posts: 237 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria
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Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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Sigh. This would have been so helpful 2 months ago when I was SO desperate for good free hosting. Now it's all done though, site's up and moving stuff ain't worth it.
Good to keep this thread in mind though.
As for me... I'm doing lots of moving so hosting stuff is out of the question, but if anybody needs a Bulgarian translation... _________________ Confutatis maledictis, flammis acribus addictis! |
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mana Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 75 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Why not take the next step? A "friends of gentoo" or even "friends of opensource" database. Everybody who is willing and able to help users or projects can register themself with contact-data (usaly instant messanger as one would like to get to know the people better) and the offers, as well as a status.
something like:
Name: Christoph
Nickname: Mana
Active in: Gentoo Community, linux-vserver IRC
icq: 27495311
offers:
-webspace in germany with nearly unlimited traffic
-german<->englisch translations
-advanced PHP-Coding
-Hosting configuration help
Status: very busy until 15.07.2006
with such a database, projects could easyly recruit (part time) contributers for special tasks instead of waiting for users to contact them. Or "Endusers" with problems or questions can search about who to contact.
What do you think? _________________ Mein Freund, der Baum, ist tot. Er starb im frühen Morgenrot. |
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cokehabit Advocate


Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3302
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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i think that is an excellent idea but beyond my simple coding abilities.
I am willing to organise it if someone is willing to code it |
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ZmiyGorinich Guru


Joined: 27 Feb 2004 Posts: 369 Location: Zaporizhzhe, Ukraine
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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Good idea. But I think who offer hosting and services must have to edit information about him _________________ Home: Athlon XP 2000+, ATI Radeon 9200 64Mb, 512Mb, hda:40Gb, hdb:120Gb, DVD-RW
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Design, programming, hosting |
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cokehabit Advocate


Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3302
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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| ZmiyGorinich wrote: | | must have to edit information about him | whom? |
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omp Retired Dev


Joined: 10 Sep 2005 Posts: 1018 Location: Glendale, California
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| cokehabit wrote: | | ZmiyGorinich wrote: | | must have to edit information about him | whom? |
I think he means that if $PERSON is to add himself to the database, then $PERSON should have the ability to change details about $PERSON's offerings.  _________________ meow. |
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ZmiyGorinich Guru


Joined: 27 Feb 2004 Posts: 369 Location: Zaporizhzhe, Ukraine
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:13 am Post subject: |
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| omp wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | | ZmiyGorinich wrote: | | must have to edit information about him | whom? |
I think he means that if $PERSON is to add himself to the database, then $PERSON should have the ability to change details about $PERSON's offerings.  |
Yes.
Sorry for my english _________________ Home: Athlon XP 2000+, ATI Radeon 9200 64Mb, 512Mb, hda:40Gb, hdb:120Gb, DVD-RW
Work : Duron 1.4, S3 ProSavage8 32Mb, 512Mb, hda:40Gb, CD-RW
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mana Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 75 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| omp wrote: | | cokehabit wrote: | | ZmiyGorinich wrote: | | must have to edit information about him | whom? |
I think he means that if $PERSON is to add himself to the database, then $PERSON should have the ability to change details about $PERSON's offerings.  |
seems like we have the first volunteer PHP-Coder
Though the programming task itself should be simple, my time is still very limited, so i can only help with coding if there is now other possibility, and i would be slow then but hosting with PHP5 and MySQL5 and a subversion repository are available.
so who will organize? please state your email, i will send you the login-data for the webaccount and the repository. I think to setup a dev forum should be the first task
Ehm and please, can somebody research if we are really the first to walk this path? We don't need a second database if allready one (not very well known) might exist. Thanks in advance.
greets
Mana _________________ Mein Freund, der Baum, ist tot. Er starb im frühen Morgenrot. |
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cokehabit Advocate


Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3302
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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| mana wrote: | so who will organize? please state your email, i will send you the login-data for the webaccount and the repository. I think to setup a dev forum should be the first task
Ehm and please, can somebody research if we are really the first to walk this path? We don't need a second database if allready one (not very well known) might exist. Thanks in advance. | good idea. I can organise it but the php/mysql needs to be done by someone else. I am willing to spend my time doing that |
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msalerno Veteran


Joined: 17 Dec 2002 Posts: 1336 Location: Sweating in South Florida
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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I could help with the database design. My php skills don't exist. my Perl/mod_perl skills are ok. Website aesthetic design, ha _________________ When harmonious relationships dissolve
Then respect and devotion arise;
When a nation falls to chaos
Then loyalty and patriotism are born.
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mana Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 75 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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okay cokehabit i send the login-data for the hosting webpanel to your hotmail account this late evening (GMT+2)
and msalerno yes i think that would help. So let me introduce you with cokehabit as he is now project manager and surely happy to manage you and your work .
As a hint, if you could use DBDesigner4 (in portage but keyworded) the visually created database structure can be exported to mysql-compatible SQL Create-Scripts. If you create mysql-views or even stored procedures for common tasks this would also speed up development without the need to know php.
I guess that cokehabit will send you the login for PHPmyadmin and the database to setup the structure once it is finished and probably discussed.
So ehm with all this technical stuff i think i'm the tech-admin of this project hm?
we still need designer(s) and coder(s) and a NAME for this
thank you guys! _________________ Mein Freund, der Baum, ist tot. Er starb im frühen Morgenrot. |
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msalerno Veteran


Joined: 17 Dec 2002 Posts: 1336 Location: Sweating in South Florida
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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What we need at this point is a project plan and a list of requirements. Before anyone can start writing code or designing a site, some guidelines should be in place.
mana, I am sure I have run into cokehabit before, it's inevitable. _________________ When harmonious relationships dissolve
Then respect and devotion arise;
When a nation falls to chaos
Then loyalty and patriotism are born.
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cokehabit Advocate


Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3302
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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| msalerno wrote: | What we need at this point is a project plan and a list of requirements. Before anyone can start writing code or designing a site, some guidelines should be in place.
mana, I am sure I have run into cokehabit before, it's inevitable. |
I'll see what i can come up with. |
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mana Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 75 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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I completely agree  _________________ Mein Freund, der Baum, ist tot. Er starb im frühen Morgenrot. |
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graphic23 Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 06 Dec 2004 Posts: 102 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| cokehabit wrote: | | msalerno wrote: | What we need at this point is a project plan and a list of requirements. Before anyone can start writing code or designing a site, some guidelines should be in place.
mana, I am sure I have run into cokehabit before, it's inevitable. |
I'll see what i can come up with. |
Hey - I can also help with the PHP/MySQL - I have coded several times in PHP/MySQL [for some school projects] and just here and there. Maybe I can also contribute. If so my email is in my profile I believe. _________________ Sincerly,
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cokehabit Advocate


Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3302
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:18 am Post subject: |
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we are setting up forums on a database for discussion of the project as a whole.
I'm coming up with an initial strategy then we can discuss things like who, why, where and when. |
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cyblord Guru


Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 424 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:37 am Post subject: |
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I've been following this thread. cokehabit and msalerno are right, before anything gets started (hosting, programming...etc.) we need to plan everything out, and see what the potentials of success are.
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I'm coming up with an initial strategy then we can discuss things like who, why, where and when. |
yeah, like a blueprint. _________________ 'mmmmm Thinkpad... |
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cokehabit Advocate


Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3302
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:11 pm Post subject: |
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| cyblord wrote: | I've been following this thread. cokehabit and msalerno are right, before anything gets started (hosting, programming...etc.) we need to plan everything out, and see what the potentials of success are.
| cokehabit wrote: | | I'm coming up with an initial strategy then we can discuss things like who, why, where and when. | yeah, like a blueprint. | so far it has a codename and that is codename FOOD (Friends Of Opensource Databse).
A dedicated forums will be created where we can discuss how it should take place, who can offer which service to create it. I can quickly type up an initial strategy because it isn't much beyond that but i was going to try and do one with little boxes and things I did project managment gantt chard but i realised that since people are giving their time for free that a professional project management template was not a good idea |
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mana Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 75 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Jeah time pressure keeps the contributers easiely away. So Tasks are good but a schedule is to early for this stage. And cokehabit, of course we all love little boxes and things, do we?  _________________ Mein Freund, der Baum, ist tot. Er starb im frühen Morgenrot. |
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cokehabit Advocate


Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3302
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| mana, can you make the forums up so we can place a time and date for a meeting? |
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mana Tux's lil' helper


Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 75 Location: Berlin
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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yes i will _________________ Mein Freund, der Baum, ist tot. Er starb im frühen Morgenrot. |
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cyblord Guru


Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 424 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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I can help out with managing the forum , since there's not much I can do at the moment. _________________ 'mmmmm Thinkpad... |
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cokehabit Advocate


Joined: 23 Apr 2004 Posts: 3302
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| cyblord wrote: | I can help out with managing the forum , since there's not much I can do at the moment. | how is your coding? Or setting up of services? |
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cyblord Guru


Joined: 22 May 2006 Posts: 424 Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| cokehabit wrote: | | how is your coding? Or setting up of services? |
since I'm currently "ascertaining the art of grey-hatting", I'm still working on C. but I am familiar with web languages.
Setting up of services? what do you mean? like setting up phpbb and stuff? pffffffft... piece of cake _________________ 'mmmmm Thinkpad... |
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