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donde n00b

Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 2:33 pm Post subject: Can I shutdown? |
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Does the computer have to up through the whole install? I shutdown and seem to have lost everything below /mnt/gentoo (before chroot). This is my third attemped install. A couple of my errors. At Copy DNS, got "do you want to overwrite?" Said yes, and blew away Compile Options, except DNS. Why did this happen? Made a new one manually. Got to 6a, chroot and decided to do shutdown. Restarted later, and see everything below gentoo gone, which I guees is normal after chroot. But, could not find make.conf anywhere with a find. Maybe, it was in /boot on the HD. Didn't think of that. Could not do emerge 'file not found'. Just got mad and quit. put Mepis on, just to see if HD OK. Do want to get back to Gentoo, but now very tired the way install is going. I need some encouragement.
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NeddySeagoon Administrator


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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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donde,
Welcome to gentoo. Yes, you can shutdown in the middle of your install as many times as you need to.
You use the same process as I will describe to fit it when it won't boot too, so you will use the process several times.
To recover/contine, boot with the liveCD, now follow the handbook up to and including the chroot and the following two environment setting commands with two important exceptions.
1. Skip the section on using fdisk to partition your drive
2. Skip the section on making filesystems on your partitions.
Your partitions are made and formatted already, doing it again will destroy what you have already done.
You are now back in your install where you left off. If you were doing an emerge,
will carry on from the start of the package in progress when you shut down.
It is possible to make a mess of things by interrupting the install phase of a package, so avoid shutting down when you can see Installing scrolling up the screen. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
Computer users fall into two groups:-
those that do backups
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donde n00b

Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for reply. What do you mean by the 2 evnironment settings commands? I must have missed that.
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NeddySeagoon Administrator


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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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donde,
The two commands in the handbook just after
| Code: | | chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash |
Here
| Code: | # chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
# env-update
* Caching service dependencies...
# source /etc/profile |
_________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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donde n00b

Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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Can I do these commands at any new reboot to bring back environment where I left off?
What does the + mean in the Blocks column of fdisk? Mine is lined up with hda2, not hda1.
Is this of concern?
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NeddySeagoon Administrator


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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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donde,
Yes - any time.
At the end of the command sequence, when you are in the chroot, your own install, in whatever state it is, is running on top of the LiveCD kernel. You use this command sequence when you have done something to stop your Gentoo from booting on its own too, so keep your liveCD handy even after the install.
I don't know what the + symbol means in fdisk -l
I have lots of them. _________________ Regards,
NeddySeagoon
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donde n00b

Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Neddy
Thanks, I'll keep what said in my notes, and hope start again with fresh outlook.
I've been looking about the plus symbol in fdisk. I believe it stands for boot order. If this is true, hda2 (swap) on my partitions would try to boot first, and then eventually get to hda1 (boot). I suppose this would work.
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NeddySeagoon Administrator


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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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donde,
Nope its not that. | Code: | Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 * 1 5 40131 fd Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sda2 6 130 1004062+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda4 131 36483 292005472+ 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 131 739 4891761 fd Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sda6 740 4387 29302528+ fd Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sda7 4388 4631 1959898+ fd Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sda8 4632 5361 5863693+ fd Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sda9 5362 7307 15631213+ fd Linux raid autodetect
/dev/sda10 7308 36483 234356188+ fd Linux raid autodetect
| The bootable flag is the * and thats ignored by most systems today _________________ Regards,
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donde n00b

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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Needy
You said: The bootable flag is the * and thats ignored by most systems today
Do you mean: The bootable flag is the * and the + is ignored by most systems today?
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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| donde wrote: | Needy
You said: The bootable flag is the * and thats ignored by most systems today
Do you mean: The bootable flag is the * and the + is ignored by most systems today?
donde |
No.
The * is the bootable flag; it marks which partition is "bootable." It used to be that the MBR would just search for the partition marked bootable and would boot from that.
Like if you do "fdisk -l" it should have a * underneath the part that says "Boot" which marks which is the bootable partition; though grub/lilo don't need a bootable partition. Though windows only boots if it's on a bootable partition.
And the fdisk manpage says nothing about the "+" so I can't figure out what it means. |
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donde n00b

Joined: 21 Jan 2006 Posts: 17
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Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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OK
I'll drop dwelling on it. You explained it very well. Have a good weekend. Think I'll start again on Monday. I'm trying to put Gentoo on VIA EPIA M10000. Any comments on this MB would be helpfull. As you can see, I'm pretty much a Linux newbie, but giving it a go.
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