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| Best Debian Based Distro |
| Ubuntu/Kubuntu/.... |
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44% |
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| MEPIS |
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2% |
[ 2 ] |
| Knoppix |
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9% |
[ 8 ] |
| Plain Debian |
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26% |
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| Xandros |
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1% |
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| KANOTIX |
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4% |
[ 4 ] |
| Libranet |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| Progeny Debian |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| Other Debian Based (Please Specify) |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| I Would Not Recomend Using A Debian Based Distro |
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10% |
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jdm64
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codergeek42
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Knoppix. It's saved my butt on a few occasions.
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Cinder6
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Said Ubuntu, but I also like Debian. When I voted, I was thinking of the desktop user; Ubuntu seems to fill that role better then plain Debian does (I prefer Debian for servers, though).
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taurus
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Right now, it's Ubuntu but I reserve the rights to change my mind later...  |
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abaelinor
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sorooros
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Mepis is very nice. I installed it on my sister's PC and "everything just works". Easy installation, nice HW detection, plus it is a Live-CD.
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/me posts from Ubuntu box..,..
but I'd say pure Debian is the Daddy.
Withiout pure Debian non of the other amazing distro's would be what they are.
Personally I love kanotix and Ubuntu is OK for my mum to use but the whole sudo thing drives me mad.
Neiother of these would be anything without the millions of hours put in by Debian developers though. |
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plbe
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| I prefer plain debian but knoppix and ubuntu are good distros, never tried the other ones. Don't know why everyone considers ubuntu an up to date version of debian, the only updated packages in ubuntu are mainly the gnome related ones and the commonly used apps such as gaim, firefox, xchat etc...if you take a look at a package say like fluxbox its still at 0.9.12, I'd just prefer to run debian unstable over ubuntu |
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CuCullin
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I'm definitely not an ubuntu fan..
I did, actually, install Debian Sarge last night on my Ultra 5. Installation went beatifully, and by the time I get home (for installs I enter info, walk away, and come back whenever to enter more) it should be finished. I like what they have, and how its set up. I'd go original. |
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jdm64
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Ubuntu - First time I installed it I was fairly surprised, as it detected the windows network the computer was connected to. I don't like GNOME so I installed KDE and Xfce. Both worked fine (although KDE didn't have harddrive icons on the desktop, but got those to work), untill I upgraded. KDE lost all icons I had created and Xfce didn't work at all. I also was annoyed by the use of sudo. I thought about installing Kubuntu, but it looks like there's a strong division of tool kits between Ubuntu and Kubuntu. Kubuntu only has software made with Qt, and Ubuntu only has software made with Gtk. Although this is only for installing, as you can install software after the "base install". But, I think that tool kits shouldn't matter. And I think that from the start (installation) you should not have to install tons of software just because it dosn't fit with the default tool kit.
Mepis - The LiveCD was slow. Even for a LiveCD! All others I've tryed were at least double the speed. And I felt that alot of unnessisary programs were auto loaded at boot time, like: KWeather (I think that's the name), SpamAssasin (it's a LiveCD, why do you need SpamAssasin?), and a couple others I can't think of. Installation was a breeze though, easier that anything I've come across.
Kanotix - The installation wasn't GUI (at least the version I installed), but that doesn't bother me at all. Once installed, I had a very nice system. All the default configurations were just what I would've set them at (at least most of them). But, my only gripe about Kanotix came when, I upgrated, mostly when upgrading to X.Org. The boot time went up considerably. It took forever to go from Grub to KDE login. The reason for this, I have resoned, is only two fold. During booting, Hotplug was started muitible times (3-4 times) and each time tryed to detect already detected hardware. The Other slowdown was X.Org. That seemed to slow the booting. But once booted the system was fine. The version I installed was 2005-2, so I think both problems have been fixed (hopefully). And with 2005-4 comeing out soon, with X.Org aready installed, a better installer, and new software, I think Kanotix I a very good Distro! And it's a LiveCD, so very powerfull for testing and fixing orther computers!
Well, that's my 2 cents.
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| jdm64 wrote: | Ubuntu - First time I installed it I was fairly surprised, as it detected the windows network the computer was connected to. I don't like GNOME so I installed KDE and Xfce. Both worked fine (although KDE didn't have harddrive icons on the desktop, but got those to work), untill I upgraded. KDE lost all icons I had created and Xfce didn't work at all. I also was annoyed by the use of sudo. I thought about installing Kubuntu, but it looks like there's a strong division of tool kits between Ubuntu and Kubuntu. Kubuntu only has software made with Qt, and Ubuntu only has software made with Gtk. Although this is only for installing, as you can install software after the "base install". But, I think that tool kits shouldn't matter. And I think that from the start (installation) you should not have to install tons of software just because it dosn't fit with the default tool kit.
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Agreed: some of the toolkits seem half missing too when you try and patch them together.
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Mepis - The LiveCD was slow. Even for a LiveCD! All others I've tryed were at least double the speed. And I felt that alot of unnessisary programs were auto loaded at boot time, like: KWeather (I think that's the name), SpamAssasin (it's a LiveCD, why do you need SpamAssasin?), and a couple others I can't think of. Installation was a breeze though, easier that anything I've come across.
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Some people love it... not me and the other stuff is more showcasing than making a useful live CD.
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Kanotix - The installation wasn't GUI (at least the version I installed), but that doesn't bother me at all. Once installed, I had a very nice system. All the default configurations were just what I would've set them at (at least most of them). But, my only gripe about Kanotix came when, I upgrated, mostly when upgrading to X.Org. The boot time went up considerably. It took forever to go from Grub to KDE login. The reason for this, I have resoned, is only two fold. During booting, Hotplug was started muitible times (3-4 times) and each time tryed to detect already detected hardware. The Other slowdown was X.Org. That seemed to slow the booting. But once booted the system was fine. The version I installed was 2005-2, so I think both problems have been fixed (hopefully). And with 2005-4 comeing out soon, with X.Org aready installed, a better installer, and new software, I think Kanotix I a very good Distro! And it's a LiveCD, so very powerfull for testing and fixing orther computers!
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Well the 2005-02 does have a GUI install which makes me thing you used the old installer - which probably explains some later problems. However the questions are identical either way so the GUI really doesn't help a lot or hinder a lot.
GUI installers look nice but limit the use by some people .. or more accuratly machines.
The hotplug stuff is slightly annoying because its a relict of the live CD even when its installed but kano provides a load of cleanup scripts... these are needed because the install is just a copy of the image to a partition. I think this is deliberate but it means you should get stuff working in the Live and set dial-up etc., plug-ins and drivers BEFORE installing ..
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zenlunatic
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| codergeek42 wrote: | | Knoppix. It's saved my butt on a few occasions. |
Saved your butt from curtis? |
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| jdm64 wrote: | I was going to have that it the poll (I think) but it wouldn't let me have more than 10 options  |
That sucks. |
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curtis119
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| zenlunatic wrote: | | jdm64 wrote: | | I was going to have that it the poll (I think) but it wouldn't let me have more than 10 options |
That sucks. |
Yeah that does suck because Beatrix is an awesome little distro. The best liveCD I have ever used and the install to disk is so effortless it makes me cry tears of joy. The entire thing is stripped to the bare essentials and soooooo fast. Love it love it love it.
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codergeek42
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| curtis119 wrote: | | @zenlunatic, codergeek is a cutie but I only use non-free condoms so he's safe. |
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| gowator wrote: | Well the 2005-02 does have a GUI install which makes me thing you used the old installer - which probably explains some later problems. However the questions are identical either way so the GUI really doesn't help a lot or hinder a lot.
GUI installers look nice but limit the use by some people .. or more accuratly machines.
The hotplug stuff is slightly annoying because its a relict of the live CD even when its installed but kano provides a load of cleanup scripts... these are needed because the install is just a copy of the image to a partition. I think this is deliberate but it means you should get stuff working in the Live and set dial-up etc., plug-ins and drivers BEFORE installing ... |
Cleanup Scripts? Can you tell me about these scripts? What ones should I run? Where are they found? It sounds like they would fix some of the problems I'm haveing! |
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